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Old 06-03-2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
I'll just leave this here.
Yeah. 40 out of the goodness of the hearts, and the rest because they lost a hard fought arbitration.

Don't kid yourself. If that arbitration would've gone the other way, you'd be no more concern to AAG than a Mesa or RAH pilot.

Nothing against them, but AAG doesn't care anything about them other than they keep moving the metal.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
Yeah. 40 out of the goodness of the hearts, and the rest because they lost a hard fought arbitration.

Don't kid yourself. If that arbitration would've gone the other way, you'd be no more concern to AAG than a Mesa or RAH pilot.

Nothing against them, but AAG doesn't care anything about them other than they keep moving the metal.
Its a little too early in the day to be slobbering drunk.

I might have missed it, but who said anything about anyone doing anything out of the goodness of their hearts? Is that what you want? For AA or any company to do something for you because they think you are nice?

This flow and subsequent streamlined career progression benefits each one of us individually and that is all that matters. Yes, the 824 was awarded through arbitration. That is EXACTLY why it is important to have a contract with things in writing. Any violation comes with gains for us through arbitration. With that said, AA has been flowing up more Envoy pilots than the contractual minimum. Call it what you will...an olive branch and/or a business move. Either way, we all benefit.

Take a step back and breath for a second. You have been one of the loudest negative nancies on here and talk airline for 2 years. Now that there is not much negativity anymore you are grasping at straws.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Its a little too early in the day to be slobbering drunk.

I might have missed it, but who said anything about anyone doing anything out of the goodness of their hearts? Is that what you want? For AA or any company to do something for you because they think you are nice?

This flow and subsequent streamlined career progression benefits each one of us individually and that is all that matters. Yes, the 824 was awarded through arbitration. That is EXACTLY why it is important to have a contract with things in writing. Any violation comes with gains for us through arbitration. With that said, AA has been flowing up more Envoy pilots than the contractual minimum. Call it what you will...an olive branch and/or a business move. Either way, we all benefit.

Take a step back and breath for a second. You have been one of the loudest negative nancies on here and talk airline for 2 years. Now that there is not much negativity anymore you are grasping at straws.

Any chance Envoy Air could keep the NY base open? I know it's not relevant to the topic, but it would seem to be a move that would make hundreds of employees there happy. Envoy Air would have a great presence in NY, just not sure why they're closing it altogether.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LeadFoot
Any chance Envoy Air could keep the NY base open? I know it's not relevant to the topic, but it would seem to be a move that would make hundreds of employees there happy. Envoy Air would have a great presence in NY, just not sure why they're closing it altogether.
There's always a chance..
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:36 PM
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How long to hold DFW? Not concerned with long reserve stints, living in base. Has the displacement bid for NYC closing been done yet?
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LeadFoot
Any chance Envoy Air could keep the NY base open? I know it's not relevant to the topic, but it would seem to be a move that would make hundreds of employees there happy. Envoy Air would have a great presence in NY, just not sure why they're closing it altogether.
Said the people in the BOS base, SJU base, LAX base.

A little further back: BNA, RDU

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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
How long to hold DFW? Not concerned with long reserve stints, living in base. Has the displacement bid for NYC closing been done yet?
You can hold DFW right out of training. Yes.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Said the people in the BOS base, SJU base, LAX base.
Don't forget MIA. But whose counting.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Said the people in the BOS base, SJU base, LAX base.

lol good point!
At this rate, though, I can see potential pilot applicants not wanting to go to Envoy if it has a record for closing that many bases. I know it's all AAG but it makes it hard for Envoy to convince future applicants that things cannot get any worse than they have been. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 06-03-2015 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LeadFoot
Any chance Envoy Air could keep the NY base open? I know it's not relevant to the topic, but it would seem to be a move that would make hundreds of employees there happy. Envoy Air would have a great presence in NY, just not sure why they're closing it altogether.
Absolutely there is a chance.
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