Originally Posted by Skyvector

Seeing as how you were hired by PSA yesterday I would worry less about Envoy and more about finishing IOE. You are as green as they come and still have much to learn about how part 121 companies work. For a new hire you spend too much time trolling message boards. I would hate to see you wash out of training...and have to go to somewhere like Mesa.

Originally Posted by FirstClass

You again? I'm getting tired of beating you down. You have a point to make then make it. Quit playing around telling people your blocking us when deep down inside you crave what I have to say.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader

It's not hard to be an imbecile on an Internet forum, but you do it so well I am betting you are a natural in real life as well.

Originally Posted by skyxbomb

You two need to to get a room...

Not defending FirstClass or anything but PilotCrusader you were once a bigger troll than him/her going around claiming how you've denied over 30 PSA pilots from going to work or home.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

*sigh* Cujo's playing a bit loose and fast with his claims again.

Last I heard, perhaps 470 or so "824" pilots flowed to AA since the initial December 3, 2013 class that had the first "824" pilot in it. As of now Envoy supposedly has approximately 2000 pilots. However, at the beginning of 2014, I believe they were closer to 2500, so the claim 1/4 of Envoy pilots have flowed to 18 months is not accurate. 1/5 or less than 20% would be a more accurate description, which although not bad, must be tempered with the fact that AAG and Envoy are required to flow those pilots per arbitration award so long as AAG is hiring from the street. Apparently, there is a conflict brewing about the definition of "new-hire" and the assertion is that flows from elsewhere are new-hires and require the awarded percentage of Envoy pilots in that case. I happen to agree they are and Envoy pilots deserve that share, but barring a negotiated agreement, I'd expect and arbitration to resolve that or perhaps request for clarification from the arbitrator.

Anyhoo, the QOL at Envoy has been atrocious for months, if not years, yet today's claim from Cujo is that "nobody would recommend it currently", yet just a couple of weeks ago he WAS recommending it and strongly, while reminding me of a crow dinner he'd be serving me shortly in response to my disagreement.

Why do all these flip-flop claims and promises remind me of a guy named mason32 ?

Originally Posted by Cujo665

how many has RAH or GoJets or any of the rest including PSA sent to AA in the past 1.5 years? I know you can't stand it... But flow is doing exactly what they said it would. However, until they fix the QOL issues their recruitment efforts will fail.

A recent survey of current students by UND revealed the current number one issue was pay, the second was QOL and then came direct path to mainline (flow).

The QOL issues here are easily fixed once management gets their head out of their butts. They have to want to fix it though.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3

He won't wash out, PSA needs him so bad. Like the guy that got hired without any jet time, but since he "have" 1,000 P121, he's a CA. Never finished IOE as an FO, now he's a CA without any experience flying a CRJ.

That's scary...

Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

It is. I think the media and pax flying PSA should be aware of this.