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Old 06-24-2015 | 02:53 PM
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Envoy Air (MQ) #9802 ? 24-Jun-2015 ? KSAW - KDAY ? FlightAware

Anyone know what tail# this is?

It should be the 3rd delivery.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
He wrote it. He's the name on the left at the bottom.
I don't understand. He's been touting the place as the place to be for the last two weeks non stop using phrases like 'it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot' and basically calling any desenting opinion lies. Now it seems he's doing a 180 and basically wanting to see the place burn. Over what? Six missed flows that will probably be made up on the next month.

But I trust I've illustrated my point over the last few weeks. Deciding your future on a flow that is obviously faulty and no guarantees is foolish. It can't be the sole reason to choose an airline.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 04:37 PM
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Our pilots are down to 11 and 12 days off and with the poor schedules they are often required to come to work on their day off the night before their trip, or their trip finishes so late that they must use a day off to travel home. The end result is that the meager 11 days off is very often reduced to a paltry 7 days off at home with family. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I fail to see how this is a company problem? if you choose to be a commuter it goes with the territory
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Old 06-24-2015 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
I don't understand. He's been touting the place as the place to be for the last two weeks non stop using phrases like 'it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot' and basically calling any desenting opinion lies. Now it seems he's doing a 180 and basically wanting to see the place burn. Over what? Six missed flows that will probably be made up on the next month.

But I trust I've illustrated my point over the last few weeks. Deciding your future on a flow that is obviously faulty and no guarantees is foolish. It can't be the sole reason to choose an airline.
He doesn't make sense to a lot people, you aren't the only one. If you could see Pre-TA Cujo, you'd have seen the biggest loud-mouthed cocky union rep who did nothing but bash the company and act like a huge know-it-all. Then he got in trouble and had to be a cheery songbird FOR the company to keep from getting fired. Now he's back to being a tough guy again. It's quite entertaining if you aren't an envoy pilot, but for all the guys trapped behind his leadership, it's a nightmare.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I fail to see how this is a company problem? if you choose to be a commuter it goes with the territory
Not much choice in the matter of being a commuter when they keep closing bases.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
He doesn't make sense to a lot people, you aren't the only one. If you could see Pre-TA Cujo, you'd have seen the biggest loud-mouthed cocky union rep who did nothing but bash the company and act like a huge know-it-all. Then he got in trouble and had to be a cheery songbird FOR the company to keep from getting fired. Now he's back to being a tough guy again. It's quite entertaining if you aren't an envoy pilot, but for all the guys trapped behind his leadership, it's a nightmare.
Untrue. I take the direction of the majority of the pilots in my base., not the company. If they change their mind, I do as they direct. I get them the best most accurate up to date information and let them decide the direction. I then pursue their agenda with vigor, even if I personally don't agree.

Let me know the next time you sit and call all of your based pilots to get their opinion individually so they can speak freely without fear of speaking in public in the crew rooms. I've done it twice in the last 1.5 years. The second time I didn't get more than 3/4 through before voting came, but it was so lopsided there wasn't any doubt where the base was at. It took several days each time. That was time locked in my office at home away from from family because I give a ****. Sure, I could do like other ALPA reps and wait for pilots to email or call me, but that doesn't address the silent majority does it? What's the last thing you did for your fellow pilot besides gripe on here?

Our base Facebook page has about 2/3rds of our base on it and is extremely active. I average about 7,000 to 8,500 cell minutes a month talking with my pilots... unlimited texts.... and never ending emails. Trust me, I know exactly what the majority in my base wants me to be working on.

The company had a rare opportunity to turn it around. Instead they squandered it.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I fail to see how this is a company problem? if you choose to be a commuter it goes with the territory

Ignorant statement when 5 of 7 bases have closed since 08.


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Old 06-24-2015 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
I don't understand. He's been touting the place as the place to be for the last two weeks non stop using phrases like 'it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot' and basically calling any desenting opinion lies. Now it seems he's doing a 180 and basically wanting to see the place burn. Over what? Six missed flows that will probably be made up on the next month.

But I trust I've illustrated my point over the last few weeks. Deciding your future on a flow that is obviously faulty and no guarantees is foolish. It can't be the sole reason to choose an airline.
It's actually a 360, since his previous stance was already a 180.
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Old 06-24-2015 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I fail to see how this is a company problem? if you choose to be a commuter it goes with the territory
Wow, really? We go from 6 bases to 2 bases, and you're saying commuting is a choice? What a tool
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Old 06-24-2015 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bpflyerone
Ignorant statement when 5 of 7 bases have closed since 08.


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5-7 bases? That's a lot for a big regional. I can't think of another regional that has permanently closed that many bases and is still in business. How do they plan on hiring with that kind of record? Rhetorical question, since I'm really implying that they need more versatility and more bases to attract more pilots from all parts of the country.
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