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Old 06-25-2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
It is. I think the media and pax flying PSA should be aware of this.
Yea cause the media is such a huge help to our industry as it is already.... Let the panel of aviation experts (with a combined total of 15 hours) give their views on how to fix the airlines. While they talk over the 30 year captain with 30,000 hours and never let him actually get a word in. Always fun to listen to how stupid those people are.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
how many has RAH or GoJets or any of the rest including PSA sent to AA in the past 1.5 years? I know you can't stand it... But flow is doing exactly what they said it would. However, until they fix the QOL issues their recruitment efforts will fail.
It's easy to "do exactly as they said they would" when they are legally compelled to do so. As for your last sentance, that's among my points all along, yet it, at least in the past, obviously got lost in all your sales pitches.

Originally Posted by Cujo665
A recent survey of current students by UND revealed the current number one issue was pay, the second was QOL and then came direct path to mainline (flow).
It's odd you highlight this when it has been your assertion all along that a superior (and guaranteed, at least in theory) path to a legacy, a'la the "flow-through" is what would be the foundation for making Envoy the place to be. This survey directly contridicts your previous assertions.

Originally Posted by Cujo665
The QOL issues here are easily fixed once management gets their head out of their butts. They have to want to fix it though.
Maybe, maybe not. It's premature to make that conclusion considering the past and the fact your management is exactly who they are.

BTW, what happened to putting me on "ignore" ? I figured that was at least the one thing you wouldn't flip-flop on what with me being such a mindless "troll" unworthy of debate.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 03:34 PM
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Getting hard to sift thru all this rigamaroll here. Is this a good place to come to for a new comer? Looks like this company lies to its employees--do they? Seems like it's getting kind of hard to sell.

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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
Getting hard to sift thru all this rigamaroll here. Is this a good place to come to for a new comer? Looks like this company lies to its employees--do they? Seems like it's getting kind of hard to sell.

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The employees lie to the employees too.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
Getting hard to sift thru all this rigamaroll here. Is this a good place to come to for a new comer? Looks like this company lies to its employees--do they? Seems like it's getting kind of hard to sell.

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You're either too lazy to read the last 30 pages or so, or you have absolutely no comprehension skills...
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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
Getting hard to sift thru all this rigamaroll here. Is this a good place to come to for a new comer? Looks like this company lies to its employees--do they? Seems like it's getting kind of hard to sell.

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It's always been good to me. I love my job, the people I work with, the training I have received, and I have no doubt (in my mind) that envoy will be a great place to come to for a new-comer. It really depends on what kind of a person you are though. Personally, I feel grateful to have a flying job at all...but I worked my a$$ off to get where I am, have been on my own since I was 16, and paid for everything I have on my own. If you have an entitlement mentality, you may hate it. Make the best of what you have, keep your options open, make lemons out of lemonade, don't be afraid to work, and ignore the noise! Envoy is far from perfect, but is much better than any other company for whom I have worked.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
You're either too lazy to read the last 30 pages or so, or you have absolutely no comprehension skills...
Oh contrar, my comprehension skills are fine and I'm not lazy either. Too much conflicting information, misleading replys, and baseless sputtering--like from you.

Better throttle back there jt8d and clear that compressor stall.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Eject
It's always been good to me. I love my job, the people I work with, the training I have received, and I have no doubt (in my mind) that envoy will be a great place to come to for a new-comer. It really depends on what kind of a person you are though. Personally, I feel grateful to have a flying job at all...but I worked my a$$ off to get where I am, have been on my own since I was 16, and paid for everything I have on my own. If you have an entitlement mentality, you may hate it. Make the best of what you have, keep your options open, make lemons out of lemonade, don't be afraid to work, and ignore the noise! Envoy is far from perfect, but is much better than any other company for whom I have worked.
For that very coherent, professional reply.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
Oh contrar, my comprehension skills are fine and I'm not lazy either. Too much conflicting information, misleading replys, and baseless sputtering--like from you.

Better throttle back there jt8d and clear that compressor stall.
Jt8d is an established idiot. Don't pay him any attention.

Over 80% of the posts in this thread are made by people who don't work at Envoy. So no, you are not very likely to get any kind of useful information from just reading through page after page.

Shoot me or any other actual Envoy employee a PM and we can answer any questions you may have.
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Old 06-25-2015 | 05:13 PM
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I work here. I second what Eject has said. Great people, great training. We also have the best travel benefits for any regional hands down. I live in DFW and drive to work, it's had its up and downs but all in all I am grateful I work here.
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