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Old 06-26-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I think any aspiring pilot who places off-duty travel as a significant priority in ranking attributes during their (hopefully) short time at the regional level has their priorities out of whack.
Spoken like a true closed minded individual. Just because you don't like to ever leave your box, doesn't mean other people think like you. The average pilot probably spends about 10 years of their life at the regionals, that is a long time being stuck at a place with crappy travel benefits.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
So it's scary because he has no CRJ time? Please. Major airlines upgrade FOs to CA on equipment they've never flown on a daily basis.

So does Skywest, Mesa, Eagle....Anyone operating multiple fleet types. It's an airplane. Probably way more forgiving than his last aircraft.
Its scary because he pencil whipped his hrs. It's scary because he has never flown in congested airports, it's sacary because he has no experience with the PSA operation in real life. It's scary because the guys it's being fired from his last place, the place before that, and the place before that.

Bottom of the barrel and he's a CA now, bragging about it.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Its scary because he pencil whipped his hrs. It's scary because he has never flown in congested airports, it's sacary because he has no experience with the PSA operation in real life. It's scary because the guys it's being fired from his last place, the place before that, and the place before that.

Bottom of the barrel and he's a CA now, bragging about it.
Getting exciting now!!
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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Its scary because he pencil whipped his hrs. It's scary because he has never flown in congested airports, it's sacary because he has no experience with the PSA operation in real life. It's scary because the guys it's being fired from his last place, the place before that, and the place before that.

Bottom of the barrel and he's a CA now, bragging about it.

I see what you did there.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Spoken like a true closed minded individual. Just because you don't like to ever leave your box, doesn't mean other people think like you. The average pilot probably spends about 10 years of their life at the regionals, that is a long time being stuck at a place with crappy travel benefits.
Spoken like an individual with an obvious chip on his shoulder and one with a comprehension problem.

I spent more then twice that at the regional level and off-duty travel wasn't prioritized above compensation, advancement or treatment, although I "left my box" plenty of times . Sure, it's nice, but I know pilots at various regionals and if they truly want to go somewhere, they can. Envoy doesn't open any more doors in that area then any other regional. I can't recall a single instance in well over two decades while flying for Eagle that another pilot trumpeted this aspect of the profession as anything other then something extra nice to have.

I'd much rather have "crappy" travel bennies with better pay (a byproduct of faster upgrade) and better schedules. Apparently, your priorities are reversed and so then, I agree that since you're probably going to be where you are a long time, forget about the compensation and QOL and go see the world just a little bit easier.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Spoken like an individual with an obvious chip on his shoulder and one with a comprehension problem.

I spent more then twice that at the regional level and off-duty travel wasn't prioritized above compensation, advancement or treatment, although I "left my box" plenty of times . Sure, it's nice, but I know pilots at various regionals and if they truly want to go somewhere, they can. Envoy doesn't open any more doors in that area then any other regional. I can't recall a single instance in well over two decades while flying for Eagle that another pilot trumpeted this aspect of the profession as anything other then something extra nice to have.

I'd much rather have "crappy" travel bennies with better pay (a byproduct of faster upgrade) and better schedules. Apparently, your priorities are reversed and so then, I agree that since you're probably going to be where you are a long time, forget about the compensation and QOL and go see the world just a little bit easier.
I understand that whenever there were 4 separate Eagles, Wings West treated pilots pretty good. But there was hatred for the Wings guys from the Simmons guys and something called the East Texas Mafia.

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Old 06-26-2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
<snip> It's scary because the guys it's being fired from his last place, the place before that, and the place before that <snip>
For those of us who are English literate, can you please make this make sense?

Thx.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I think any aspiring pilot who places off-duty travel as a significant priority in ranking attributes during their (hopefully) short time at the regional level has their priorities out of whack.
That's a rather glib statement. I think that for you, off duty travel shouldn't be a significant factor. I love my travel benefits and my family, I laws and friends use them extensively. It is one of the major reasons I joined this profession.

In the past 12 months we have:
Gone diving in Central America
Been to London 2 times
Been to Ireland 3 times
Gone to Texas for wedding
Surfing in Cali (6 times)
Spent two weekends in Chicago.

My extended family has:
Gone to Europe 3 times
Been to China (twice)
Gone to NJ

We've used AA, USAirways, Delta, United, Aer Lingus, British Airways.

We've been first or business class on all of them except BA.

We are going to Hawaii, Sydney, and New Zealand next spring.

We typically spend one weekend a month traveling and love it. My travel benefits are extremely important to me and being considered as AA for CASS has been a huge plus. Being able to Jumpseat international has significantly reduced the price. These benefits also play a huge part in where I'm willing to work.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
That's a rather glib statement. I think that for you, off duty travel shouldn't be a significant factor. I love my travel benefits and my family, I laws and friends use them extensively. It is one of the major reasons I joined this profession.

In the past 12 months we have:
Gone diving in Central America
Been to London 2 times
Been to Ireland 3 times
Gone to Texas for wedding
Surfing in Cali (6 times)
Spent two weekends in Chicago.

My extended family has:
Gone to Europe 3 times
Been to China (twice)
Gone to NJ

We've used AA, USAirways, Delta, United, Aer Lingus, British Airways.

We've been first or business class on all of them except BA.

We are going to Hawaii, Sydney, and New Zealand next spring.

We typically spend one weekend a month traveling and love it. My travel benefits are extremely important to me and being considered as AA for CASS has been a huge plus. Being able to Jumpseat international has significantly reduced the price. These benefits also play a huge part in where I'm willing to work.
^^^^ Nobody cares. Save your travel list to impress your non-aviation friends on fb.
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Old 06-26-2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hijo
^^^^ Nobody cares. Save your travel list to impress your non-aviation friends on fb.
I think the point is that travel benefits can be a huge determining factor in selecting an airline, regional or otherwise. The list isn't to try and impress anyone, it's intended to show that they are important.

Working for Another regional would not allow myself and family the lifestyle we want.
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