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Old 06-18-2015 | 07:41 AM
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TS/TD Bill was screwing up weather in DFW yesterday.
The same with ORD the day before. Epic rainfall with associated epic cancellations.
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Old 06-20-2015 | 04:54 PM
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Seems like the two "good for Envoy big news" announcements predicted by the Cuj have fizzled like a bad batch of M80 fireworks all tied together while everyone around was expecting a great show.

1. Bringing 3 to 5 EMB's back and adding a few hundred hours of flying each month. FOR AN INTERIM PERIOD no less. I would imagine only until PSA and Mesa get their own problems straightened out, if they are even able to.

2. The CRJ transfer to PSA will be SLOWED a bit. This too in order to allow PSA to right its ship.

AAG is the same old AMR. On the eve of the greatest pilot shortage ever, they are trying to shrink the total group. At some point in the future, I feel they will likely find that even the lifer senior captains at Envoy will be cheap by comparison. In addition to shrinking the group, beating them up and getting a couple of sucker punches in from time to time they help them off the floor and offering a glass of water, only to repeat the process. It's the way they operate.

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Old 06-21-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by emb145
Seems like the two "good for Envoy big news" announcements predicted by the Cuj have fizzled like a bad batch of M80 fireworks all tied together while everyone around was expecting a great show.

1. Bringing 3 to 5 EMB's back and adding a few hundred hours of flying each month. FOR AN INTERIM PERIOD no less. I would imagine only until PSA and Mesa get their own problems straightened out, if they are even able to.

2. The CRJ transfer to PSA will be SLOWED a bit. This too in order to allow PSA to right its ship.

AAG is the same old AMR. On the eve of the greatest pilot shortage ever, they are trying to shrink the total group. At some point in the future, I feel they will likely find that even the lifer senior captains at Envoy will be cheap by comparison. In addition to shrinking the group, beating them up and getting a couple of sucker punches in from time to time they help them off the floor and offering a glass of water, only to repeat the process. It's the way they operate.
Get those apps out!
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Old 06-21-2015 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by emb145
Seems like the two "good for Envoy big news" announcements predicted by the Cuj have fizzled like a bad batch of M80 fireworks all tied together while everyone around was expecting a great show.

1. Bringing 3 to 5 EMB's back and adding a few hundred hours of flying each month. FOR AN INTERIM PERIOD no less. I would imagine only until PSA and Mesa get their own problems straightened out, if they are even able to.

2. The CRJ transfer to PSA will be SLOWED a bit. This too in order to allow PSA to right its ship.

AAG is the same old AMR. On the eve of the greatest pilot shortage ever, they are trying to shrink the total group. At some point in the future, I feel they will likely find that even the lifer senior captains at Envoy will be cheap by comparison. In addition to shrinking the group, beating them up and getting a couple of sucker punches in from time to time they help them off the floor and offering a glass of water, only to repeat the process. It's the way they operate.
I don't think they are doing anything diffetent then expected. Regarding feed, I think they are simply attempting to meet needs with as little cost/effort/complexity as possible at this stage. Perhaps Parker realizes the fluidity of the regional situation and is stalling as long as possible until he has a better idea of the next move ?

I don't think he spends anytime twisting the moustache he doesn't have on how best to jam it to Envoy pilots. Plus, I think their plate is full squaring away mainline first, and THEN determining how most effective to use regionals based on available resources.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I don't think they are doing anything diffetent then expected. Regarding feed, I think they are simply attempting to meet needs with as little cost/effort/complexity as possible at this stage. Perhaps Parker realizes the fluidity of the regional situation and is stalling as long as possible until he has a better idea of the next move ?

I don't think he spends anytime twisting the moustache he doesn't have on how best to jam it to Envoy pilots. Plus, I think their plate is full squaring away mainline first, and THEN determining how most effective to use regionals based on available resources.
It doesn't seem like AAG wants to rely solely on Envoy for flow through in the long term. Flow through will be there for Envoy for sure but I think there will be other regionals that they will want to draw pilots from.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Eventually AA and Delta will likely both funnel pilots through their WO's; meaning if you aren't in one of the flow programs, your choice will only be a LCC or United.
SWEET CHICKEN GIBLETS, MASON

Not even AAG has the balls to forecast lies as big as, "ALL HIRING DONE THROUGH WHOLLY OWNED CARRIERS".
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Old 06-21-2015 | 03:52 PM
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Soooo, is it still a great time to be an envoy pilot?
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Old 06-21-2015 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crawl
Soooo, is it still a great time to be an envoy pilot?
69 hr lines, 11 days off, 25.0 year FO with a 60 yr flow to AA...you bet your *** it is.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 04:10 PM
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RSV's are also dealing with the unilateral imposing of 4am on call on day one forcing you to have to commute in a night early. 4 less nights at home a month if you are on call. Those junior RSV's can expect 7 nights at home a month.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Harpyr
SWEET CHICKEN GIBLETS, MASON

Not even AAG has the balls to forecast lies as big as, "ALL HIRING DONE THROUGH WHOLLY OWNED CARRIERS".
By 2025 American Airlines, alone, will have over 5000 mandatory retirements. That's not even counting those who decide to retire early or, frankly, those who cannot maintain a First Class medical. They won't be able to just hire pilots from Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont. While the wholly owned pilot groups will get priority for sure, other regional airline pilots will be hired in large numbers as well.
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