XJT Pilots in support of envoy
#22
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That email was from the xjt MEC, not from the ASA MEC. Each MEC is independent and can do what they feel is in the best interest of the profession regardless of the other MEC. This is not about anything other than solidarity amongst the dozen regional MECs, including xjt and ASA separately.
Here is an email from an LEC:
XJT 180 Chairman’s Message
September 5, 2014
The Fight Continues
Yesterday American Airlines management, through PSA Airlines, announced the transfer of a significant number (47) of CRJ aircraft from Eagle/Envoy. While this was disguised as a restructuring of the small-jet feed for American, it was nothing more than a blatant attack on the Eagle/Envoy pilots and our profession as well.
The Eagle/Envoy pilots and the pilots of legacy ExpressJet have shared a special relationship, not only as a result in the similarities in our business model but also due to similarities in our contract maturity. Both pilot groups have worked hard to earn their contracts and the benefits they provide to our pilots. And both pilot groups have had to fight to keep our contracts from being gutted.
Your Local Council representatives have been in contact with our counterparts at the Eagle/Envoy MEC and we plan to coordinate a response to this whipsawing of pilots by American Airlines management. While no plans have been finalized, no options that are legal are off the table to respond to this threat. Previously taboo, legal actions taken to respond to these moves have and will continue to be discussed and evaluated should American management go through with these plans.
It is important to understand that the work we started by voting down a hugely concessionary JCBA is not over. The actions taken by American management will have an impact on all airline pilots if it proceeds unchecked. For those of you who have friends at Eagle/Envoy, take the time to reach out to them, to learn from them, and to let them know they are not alone in this fight.
Here is an email from an LEC:
XJT 180 Chairman’s Message
September 5, 2014
The Fight Continues
Yesterday American Airlines management, through PSA Airlines, announced the transfer of a significant number (47) of CRJ aircraft from Eagle/Envoy. While this was disguised as a restructuring of the small-jet feed for American, it was nothing more than a blatant attack on the Eagle/Envoy pilots and our profession as well.
The Eagle/Envoy pilots and the pilots of legacy ExpressJet have shared a special relationship, not only as a result in the similarities in our business model but also due to similarities in our contract maturity. Both pilot groups have worked hard to earn their contracts and the benefits they provide to our pilots. And both pilot groups have had to fight to keep our contracts from being gutted.
Your Local Council representatives have been in contact with our counterparts at the Eagle/Envoy MEC and we plan to coordinate a response to this whipsawing of pilots by American Airlines management. While no plans have been finalized, no options that are legal are off the table to respond to this threat. Previously taboo, legal actions taken to respond to these moves have and will continue to be discussed and evaluated should American management go through with these plans.
It is important to understand that the work we started by voting down a hugely concessionary JCBA is not over. The actions taken by American management will have an impact on all airline pilots if it proceeds unchecked. For those of you who have friends at Eagle/Envoy, take the time to reach out to them, to learn from them, and to let them know they are not alone in this fight.
#23
Who cares? You are right, PSA contract is not the worst in the industry. However, you voted in a concessionary contract while your parent company made millions of net profit...
Last edited by Squawk87; 09-06-2014 at 01:16 PM.
#25
You'd have to TRY to make that little at first year pay. Ive had multiple new FOs tell me they are going to clear $30k gross in first year..when I didn't believe them, they backed it up with a pay stub. They have credited over 100 hours a month since finishing IOE, with most of their flying at 150%. Hardly bottom feeding. Sad that your MEC isn't properly educated on the ins and outs of the soft pay of our contract.
#26
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Our MEC tells us that the PSA MEC communication is next to non existent with the Eagle MEC. Our MEC has better communication with Skywest(non union) and RAH(teamsters) than with PSA. It has also been characterized to us that the PSA MEC has a "don't bother me when I'm working on a deal" mentality and refuses to talk openly on what they are working on with most other ALPA MEC's. How could we possibly learn anything about your soft pay when your MEC is playing the lone cowboy? BTW, these aren't rumors about your MEC....my sources are our negotiators and MEC chairman.
#28
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From: East coast
I believe you Buzz, and that's very disappointing to hear. It really doesn't surprise me. But our contract language is certainly available to your MEC and they would be smart to bring some of the better aspects of it with them to the table if they haven't already. Multiplying the base pay rate and min garuntee is a very unrealistic portrayal of what a pilot could potentially make on first year pay.
#30
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The continuous argument about which regional is better is ridiculous. They all suck to include mine. Guys / Gals pointing their fingers at each other, name calling and berating each other does nothing to improve the industry. What might improve the industry is one seniority list, one pay scale and contracts awarded based on performance metrics alone.
And.......
Maybe not taking anymore concessions, especially when the parent company is making all time record profits in excess of $1,500,000,000.00 per quarter!
Just sayin.
Last edited by Paid2fly; 09-06-2014 at 10:42 PM.
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