So what really does the XJT MEC plan on doing?
I'm glad there is support written in a letter, but what is this response they speak of?

XJT and ASA can't even come together as two separate pilot groups to put together a contract, yet they think they will be able to respond to American and help Envoy?

Political posturing....

 

Correction $1.85 per diem going up to $1.90 next January.

Get ready when they start asking for the sap soon. Would you vote yes if they give you guys a "real flow"?

 

And what's all this pdt bashing lately? I heard they have a TA to vote on that also included caps, but have they even voted yet?

 

I have never voted yes on anything in my 7 years here. Not to the 900 rates, not our contract, and certainly not our TA with caps. I don't want or need flow. I would rather compete for a job based on my merit. And had I understood what the sap can do at the time, I would've voted yes on the contract (which is not the same thing a our concessionary TA).

 

I agree. Regionals weren't meant to make one happy. It's a stepping stone to get on with majors. But when other factors caused regionals to become a career, that's when crap hit the fan. You will never get mainline pay or QOL even of you operate similar seat aircraft. Of course undercutting one another for peanuts is horrible but when given the choice to give a little to get a lot more back versus not compromising and getting shut down, what can one do??? Maybe when AA comes back to eagle in 2016 to renegotiate, eagle will realize they're not too big to shut down. Even in 2016, eagle will be 3x the size of PSA or 5x the size of PDT now when AA threatens them again. Say no then, and I will shut my mouth and show respect like what 39% of my peers did when faced with real threat. Or is AA bluffing again?

 

In these times of massive hiring at the majors, increased hiring minimums and hiring bonuses at regional why don't you tell me about the increases you PSA backstabbers got on your last contract. You know, the contract you used to get new flying at the expense of an airline that voted NO for concessions.

As much as I hate when people ask "what have you done for the industry lately" at least you can tell them you took pay cuts in the least paid sector of the industry. You took pay cuts in the face of record profits and contractual gains at the majors. You took cuts in the face of a wave of your fellow regional pilots drawing a line in the sand on concessions. Republic, Eagle and Expressjet all voted no even when threatened. How else can you describe PSA other that spineless?

 

Correction to my previous post. 2 of my trips paid 115/hr not 135. Guess I was typing too fast.

 

So you're saying xjt and AE have higher year 1 fo pay then? That email could've used other talking points to make a point, like pay caps. But the guy cited first year fo pay!?!? It's the same at xjt. You get my point?

 

5 hrs sick time a month with unlimited sick calls with doctors note

2 weeks of vacation 2nd year, 3 weeks at 7 years, 4 at 10 years

At 7 years, that equals 4% match and 4% company contribution

We can manipulate our schedules with our trading windows as well

That's not going over our LTD, OJI bank, healthcare premium cap.

 

That email was from the xjt MEC, not from the ASA MEC. Each MEC is independent and can do what they feel is in the best interest of the profession regardless of the other MEC. This is not about anything other than solidarity amongst the dozen regional MECs, including xjt and ASA separately.

Here is an email from an LEC:

XJT 180 Chairman’s Message
September 5, 2014

The Fight Continues
Yesterday American Airlines management, through PSA Airlines, announced the transfer of a significant number (47) of CRJ aircraft from Eagle/Envoy. While this was disguised as a restructuring of the small-jet feed for American, it was nothing more than a blatant attack on the Eagle/Envoy pilots and our profession as well.

The Eagle/Envoy pilots and the pilots of legacy ExpressJet have shared a special relationship, not only as a result in the similarities in our business model but also due to similarities in our contract maturity. Both pilot groups have worked hard to earn their contracts and the benefits they provide to our pilots. And both pilot groups have had to fight to keep our contracts from being gutted.

Your Local Council representatives have been in contact with our counterparts at the Eagle/Envoy MEC and we plan to coordinate a response to this whipsawing of pilots by American Airlines management. While no plans have been finalized, no options that are legal are off the table to respond to this threat. Previously taboo, legal actions taken to respond to these moves have and will continue to be discussed and evaluated should American management go through with these plans.

It is important to understand that the work we started by voting down a hugely concessionary JCBA is not over. The actions taken by American management will have an impact on all airline pilots if it proceeds unchecked. For those of you who have friends at Eagle/Envoy, take the time to reach out to them, to learn from them, and to let them know they are not alone in this fight.