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Old 12-14-2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
You're implying that 1-2k hours of 121 PIC is the golden ticket to get hired at a major. That is far from accurate. Ask all the guys who have been captains for a few years who still can't get out of their current regional.
+1, that fairy tale of getting 1000 TPIC will get you automatically to the major is non-sense only new hires believe. Anyone with a couple of years at the regionals will tell you the real story: military, minorities, friends and family, not just recommendations BUT recommendations from people that matter, these are the people getting their foot at the majors, with exceptions here and there.
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Old 12-14-2014 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I know since you are flying the G1 this probably all seems a little foreign to you. On the surface, flow through seems like a great thing but in reality its just a tool that management uses to obtain your obedience for 10 years, kind of like a carrot. The truth is you are better off going to a regional that is growing. Upgrade time should be the only thing on your mind, not 10 year flow throughs. You upgrade, then you are out of there in a year or two.

Maybe one day you will want to work for the airlines, this is a good place to learn some of the ropes. Good luck!
His statement of "silliness" is correct in one way and that's your assumption of his false front being real. He's a DFW based EMB captain for Envoy. He's got a lot at stake and with this deal he may decide not to flow to AA. He doesn't know anything about G1's or GV's and spends a lot of time on Envoy issues because he has skin in the game.
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Old 12-14-2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Friends and Family, Interns, Military are the only ones getting hired without that golden PIC.


Good Luck.
Absolutely wrong...
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Old 12-14-2014 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Absolutely wrong...
Oh, yes. I forgot, Minorities, Women, etc...



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Old 12-14-2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
His statement of "silliness" is correct in one way and that's your assumption of his false front being real. He's a DFW based EMB captain for Envoy. He's got a lot at stake and with this deal he may decide not to flow to AA. He doesn't know anything about G1's or GV's and spends a lot of time on Envoy issues because he has skin in the game.
Do you know any place to play those silly paint ball games?


Good Luck.
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Old 12-14-2014 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy
Why, I won't be at Eagle, I'm in the flow. I'll be sure to watch a 300 pilot group help out the 2K pilot group over at AA though. Enjoy your staple.
And I'm not in the flow? There won't be anywhere near 2,000 pilots at Envoy in the near future. Guess i'll save my staples for the mainline "no fly" list. Looks like i'll need to have a binder if some of you kids are there...then again, the extra $$ would never be worth it in such a "fantastic" work environment. Good luck on your voting thingy...hehe.
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Old 12-14-2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Friends and Family, Interns, Military are the only ones getting hired without that golden PIC.


Good Luck.
I think you missed my point.
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Old 12-14-2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
And I'm not in the flow? There won't be anywhere near 2,000 pilots at Envoy in the near future. Guess i'll save my staples for the mainline "no fly" list. Looks like i'll need to have a binder if some of you kids are there...then again, the extra $$ would never be worth it in such a "fantastic" work environment. Good luck on your voting thingy...hehe.
When are you schedule to Flow just curious?


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Old 12-14-2014 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
When are you schedule to Flow just curious?


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Just about 4 years from now. That is if everyone takes the flow, which they won't...
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Old 12-14-2014 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Well, considering the 9/11 attacks, recession and the fact that AA didn't hire in yrs.....What was your question again?

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Forgot a few. Biz Ex merger, flow backs, age 65. Carry on.....
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