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Old 12-25-2014 | 05:34 PM
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As time goes by there will be less and less spots for new hires selected off street as Majors will secure flow through agreement through their regionals to fill both staffing needs at their respective regional and Mainline position. That will make the competition between the regional pilots with no flow through agreement even harder trying to get hired off the street at Mainline (AA, United, Delta). Eventually there will be 100% flow from Envoy to AA where you have to go through Envoy in order to get to AA. If you're a new hire and like to end your career at mainline I suggest you select an airline with flow through agreement. While at a regional with flow through you can always apply to the majors as off the street as you wait for your flow. Then if you get a interview prior to your flow go for it. If you get hired great, if not you still have a job and a flow through. It's a win win either way. Out of the 3 wholly owned Envoy, psa and piedmont there is only 2 of them with flow through to AA, Envoy and piedmont.

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Old 12-25-2014 | 05:49 PM
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Except that PSA has a far better contract and is the new industry leader.




Industry leader in selling out fellow pilots?
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Old 12-25-2014 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly

Industry leader in selling out fellow pilots?
Dang dude that was a good one.............
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Old 12-25-2014 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
LOL. There should be a disclaimer to guys like you that post perfectly reasonable questions towards the board that reads something like:

"WARNING: Your questions on these forums may be met by bitterness, sarcasm, condescension and douchebaggery due to the current housing of the Top 1% of regional airline pilots who hate their life and their job and won't ever be happy, even though this career choice was theirs to begin with, being fully aware of the predicaments and consequences".
Best thing I've ever read on here! Perfect. Just perfect.

And not all ENY pilots threw around the word scab so cavalier. It was only a handful of hardcore people most of which have flowed to AA or are working for another regional now.
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Old 12-25-2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by diva
Eventually there will be 100% flow from Envoy to AA where you have to go through Envoy in order to get to AA.


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Old 12-26-2014 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by diva
As time goes by there will be less and less spots for new hires selected off street as Majors will secure flow through agreement through their regionals to fill both staffing needs at their respective regional and Mainline position. That will make the competition between the regional pilots with no flow through agreement even harder trying to get hired off the street at Mainline (AA, United, Delta). Eventually there will be 100% flow from Envoy to AA where you have to go through Envoy in order to get to AA. If you're a new hire and like to end your career at mainline I suggest you select an airline with flow through agreement. While at a regional with flow through you can always apply to the majors as off the street as you wait for your flow. Then if you get a interview prior to your flow go for it. If you get hired great, if not you still have a job and a flow through. It's a win win either way. Out of the 3 wholly owned Envoy, psa and piedmont there is only 2 of them with flow through to AA, Envoy and piedmont.
I have never seen someone drink so much kool aid before
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Old 12-26-2014 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by diva
9 out of 10 I've talk to (FO's) and flown with (CA's). Are a solid NO regardless of what's offered. We have gained much strength living through this past 2 years and will continue to be stronger as time passes. Time =Leverage. So lets make the best out of it and enjvoy our time!

- Envoy pilots are like rocks and nothing breaks us.
77% Voted yes. Durrr Wrong!!

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And so is your career. Prepare to be stuck at PDT for a very long time. Like I said. They're all watching you closely.
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I agree with Ed Striker. Piedmont pilots are soon to realize what a mistake it was to fall for management's scare tactics. The whole industry is watching.
Piedmont is almost half way through it's list on flowing. Don't think they made a mistake at all. Kept our retirements and flowing like a champion. So again Wrong!

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Stand strong and hold the line. By signing this you'll give them leverage and be sorry later. Don't. You don't want to make the same mistake as Pinnacle or PSA. You won't be shut down, they need every single one of you.
If you weren't going to get shut down why did you vote "yes". Again Wrong!

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Don't ruin what 10,000 united pilots at XJT, Envoy, and RAH has achieved. We ALL have to stay united and hold the line. No 12/4 caps are needed. You have more leverage than what you think. You'll have our support all the way. Stay strong, hold the line and you all will be fine.
This one speaks for itself!!!

This guy bashed Piedmont's Training Dept. Probably because he washed out. He Flip Flops on every damn issue and sounds like some wacko liberal when discussing the regional airlines. He said I wasn't even a Piedmont pilot and I was management. Hahahahahahah I'd say it's safe to safe he brings nothing creditable to the table at all. Come on man!! Man up! Just because you feel a pair on hands on your shoulder doesn't me you automatically bend over. He's drinking something, but it ain't Koolaid.
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Old 12-26-2014 | 06:32 AM
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And remember this is from someone that told someone else. "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. And Envoy will vote what's best for the Envoy Pilots." LOL
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Old 12-26-2014 | 06:47 AM
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There's no way PDT is already at half of the list in less than 6 month with the new TA.
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Old 12-26-2014 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
There's no way PDT is already at half of the list in less than 6 month with the new TA.
It's more like a third. The guys that are opting out are staying til 65 to collect their full pension. A fund. Etc etc Which we still have.
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