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Old 12-29-2014 | 07:41 PM
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As we bump up hiring new FO's, staffing permitting, I believe Miami will again eventually be a crew base and I remain optimistic for a west coast base to be reopened as well. Time will tell.
If Envoy got the full 60 orders, I think it would have been possible to do some LAX flying in the 175s. However, with compass getting the first 20 and already having a LAX base, that one is a no brainer. The company has said that MIA will not remain a crew base. Better get that idea out of your head ASAP - republic is here to stay.

Also, new hires actually have to apply and show up...
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Old 12-29-2014 | 07:50 PM
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If Envoy got the full 60 orders, I think it would have been possible to do some LAX flying in the 175s. However, with compass getting the first 20 and already having a LAX base, that one is a no brainer. The company has said that MIA will not remain a crew base. Better get that idea out of your head ASAP - republic is here to stay.

Also, new hires actually have to apply and show up...
AAG will eventually have to acquire another regional to increase staffing. They've said they will themselves. Now rumor over at RAH is AAG is in talks to buy Shuttle America. I totally see this happening and it's a great business strategy. They've already got a MIA base now starting to fly the 175's down towards SJU area where Eagle use to have a base with similar routes. Does that mean Dan Garton (RAH bod) will be back? Is the on a special assignment like Winkley? Can they merge them (teamsters) with our seniority or will they be stapled on bottom? Any thoughts. ..
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Old 12-29-2014 | 08:06 PM
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AAG will eventually have to acquire another regional to increase staffing. They've said they will themselves. Now rumor over at RAH is AAG is in talks to buy Shuttle America. I totally see this happening and it's a great business strategy. They've already got a MIA base now starting to fly the 175's down towards SJU area where Eagle use to have a base with similar routes. Does that mean Dan Garton (RAH bod) will be back? Is the on a special assignment like Winkley? Can they merge them (teamsters) with our seniority or will they be stapled on bottom? Any thoughts. ..
Who cares.. I would never work for any wholly owned company..! Follow that 20 year promise to a flow...
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Old 12-29-2014 | 08:11 PM
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Who cares.. I would never work for any wholly owned company..! Follow that 20 year promise to a flow...
At the end the wholly owned companies will be the ones to survive. The flow is just a free ticket in your back pocket. Meanwhile you should have your apps out with all the Majors/LCC's. It's a win win either way.
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Old 12-29-2014 | 08:28 PM
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AAG will eventually have to acquire another regional to increase staffing. They've said they will themselves. Now rumor over at RAH is AAG is in talks to buy Shuttle America. I totally see this happening and it's a great business strategy. They've already got a MIA base now starting to fly the 175's down towards SJU area where Eagle use to have a base with similar routes. Does that mean Dan Garton (RAH bod) will be back? Is the on a special assignment like Winkley? Can they merge them (teamsters) with our seniority or will they be stapled on bottom? Any thoughts. ..
Or they continue to contract it out to PSA and MESA who will attract new hires with short upgrade times. As they grow , their upgrade time remains at a low allowing more word of mouth spread of the short upgrade time, further increasing the number of people applying. As they draw from other carriers those shrink and their pilots bail for PSA.

Lather rinse and repeat. AAG wants flying in house but still can't get away from cheap contracts.
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Old 12-29-2014 | 09:18 PM
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Or they continue to contract it out to PSA and MESA who will attract new hires with short upgrade times. As they grow , their upgrade time remains at a low allowing more word of mouth spread of the short upgrade time, further increasing the number of people applying. As they draw from other carriers those shrink and their pilots bail for PSA.

Lather rinse and repeat. AAG wants flying in house but still can't get away from cheap contracts.

Pretty sure you mean TSA not psa. If not your comments are irrelevant.
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Old 12-29-2014 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by diva
AAG will eventually have to acquire another regional to increase staffing. They've said they will themselves. Now rumor over at RAH is AAG is in talks to buy Shuttle America. I totally see this happening and it's a great business strategy. They've already got a MIA base now starting to fly the 175's down towards SJU area where Eagle use to have a base with similar routes. Does that mean Dan Garton (RAH bod) will be back? Is the on a special assignment like Winkley? Can they merge them (teamsters) with our seniority or will they be stapled on bottom? Any thoughts. ..
Yeah, I work at RAH; not a current rumor here.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 06:06 AM
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Yeah, I work at RAH; not a current rumor here.
It's a really dumb rumor because the shuttle pilots are on the rah seniority list. Further rah has made it clear United is their top priority.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Or they continue to contract it out to PSA and MESA who will attract new hires with short upgrade times. As they grow , their upgrade time remains at a low allowing more word of mouth spread of the short upgrade time, further increasing the number of people applying. As they draw from other carriers those shrink and their pilots bail for PSA.

Lather rinse and repeat. AAG wants flying in house but still can't get away from cheap contracts.

And as these upgrades go down watch for record numbers of ASAP, NASA reports and FAA Violations to go through the roof. Let's just hope once we get to the 2 year captain with the fresh FO we don't start losing planes and lives.

Go around is not an option.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 08:05 AM
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And as these upgrades go down watch for record numbers of ASAP, NASA reports and FAA Violations to go through the roof. Let's just hope once we get to the 2 year captain with the fresh FO we don't start losing planes and lives.

Go around is not an option.
Valid argument, but remember that they won't put you on the left seat unless you pass upgrade training...so I think you may see an increase in washouts and "failure to qualify" before anything else...
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