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Old 12-30-2014 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
And as these upgrades go down watch for record numbers of ASAP, NASA reports and FAA Violations to go through the roof. Let's just hope once we get to the 2 year captain with the fresh FO we don't start losing planes and lives.

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Don't know about the quality of pilots these days, but in the mid to late 90s, COEX had 6 month captain upgrades.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by diva
From my understanding every equipment has 1yr seat lock unless you get displaced out of it (by airplane being parked/transferred etc). So if you get hired into the e-145 you will eventually be displaced out of it my guess is around a year. Same goes for the CRJ as the 175's starts rolling inn at a rate of 2+ a month. Which at that point you'll be getting the E-175. If I was you I would pick the CRJ-700 then the E-175. I believe you'll end up in the 175 faster by being on the CRJ vs the 145. Just my thought.
They pay the same.

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Old 12-30-2014 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
Valid argument, but remember that they won't put you on the left seat unless you pass upgrade training...so I think you may see an increase in washouts and "failure to qualify" before anything else...
I agree. You'll see failures increase but there's passing a checkride and then there experience. Experience come with time.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Don't know about the quality of pilots these days, but in the mid to late 90s, COEX had 6 month captain upgrades.
Yes and I know someone that was part of that in a 1900D. My buddy at United now still says that was the scariest part of his whole career. He said no way should he have been sitting in Cleveland in the snow after 6 months and being a Captain. hahahahah
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Old 12-30-2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by diva
From my understanding every equipment has 1yr seat lock unless you get displaced out of it (by airplane being parked/transferred etc). So if you get hired into the e-145 you will eventually be displaced out of it my guess is around a year. Same goes for the CRJ as the 175's starts rolling inn at a rate of 2+ a month. Which at that point you'll be getting the E-175. If I was you I would pick the CRJ-700 then the E-175. I believe you'll end up in the 175 faster by being on the CRJ vs the 145. Just my thought.
So you think a new hire could still pick the CRJ?
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Old 12-30-2014 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Yes and I know someone that was part of that in a 1900D. My buddy at United now still says that was the scariest part of his whole career. He said no way should he have been sitting in Cleveland in the snow after 6 months and being a Captain. hahahahah
Same thing my old roommate said. First winter in CLE was as a 1900 captain.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Concorde001
So you think a new hire could still pick the CRJ?
Definitely. We're still having new hires getting on the CRJ. A good chunk have been coming on it for the past few months. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions. Good Luck.
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Old 12-30-2014 | 05:09 PM
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After this latest displacement with MIA closing, the most junior First Officer on the CRJ will be a May 2014 hire (ORD Based).
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Old 12-30-2014 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by inky13
After this latest displacement with MIA closing, the most junior First Officer on the CRJ will be a May 2014 hire (ORD Based).
And he or she will be on the bottom for a looonnnggg time or until the CRJs go to PSA.
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Old 01-01-2015 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
And he or she will be on the bottom for a looonnnggg time or until the CRJs go to PSA.
You're wrong! Had we voted NO your statement would be true. Now that the Envoy pilots voted YES with brand new E-175's rolling inn every month and flow through to AA we will be moving up at a pretty good rate. At this point Envoy has the industry leading flow through. Majors don't put as much weight on upgrades as much as they use to before. We've had plenty of Envoy First Officers going directly to United, Delta, even American etc. You CAN and SHOULD always have your apps out with all the majors including American even with our flow to AA. I'm sorry your airline have no new planes coming nor flow through. However wish you and your pilot group the best. Good luck to all new hires out there with their regional selection. Think smart. Upgrades are no longer needed to get with majors. Choose whoever has the best flow then have your apps out while you wait. Good luck guys/gals!
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