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Old 08-25-2015 | 11:46 AM
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Vacancy bid initial reports are unofficially the most junior upgrade went to a 10-2007 Date of Hire
2.5/6 baby! Flow to AA, here I come!
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Old 08-25-2015 | 12:23 PM
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Latest numbers from AA have changed and now they're saying they plan to hire 800 next year. With the E175 arriving on property here in November; it looks like we should be sending 30 a month (or more) to AA next year.

That's a change that would impact the original Envoy upgrade projections also. The 200 projected upgrades may be way too low now.


Discalimer - they change their numbers frequently. This is just their latest stuff.

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Old 08-25-2015 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Vacancy bid initial reports are unofficially the most junior upgrade went to a 10-2007 Date of Hire
8yr Upgrades and 16yr to flow.

Its a good time to be an envoy pilot!


Good Luck!
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Old 08-25-2015 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
8yr Upgrades and 16yr to flow.

Its a good time to be an envoy pilot!


Good Luck!
Why do you think that? 8 years to upgrade seems like a long time so does 16 year upgrade. I am asking why YOU think it is a good time to be an envoy pilot. Saying you are just quoting someone isn't a valid reason.

We believe you!

Challenge! Try to answer without referencing anyone else.
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Old 08-25-2015 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Latest numbers from AA have changed and now they're saying they plan to hire 800 next year. With the E175 arriving on property here in November; it looks like we should be sending 30 a month (or more) to AA next year.

That's a change that would impact the original Envoy upgrade projections also. The 200 projected upgrades may be way too low now.


Discalimer - they change their numbers frequently. This is just their latest stuff.
If AA is planning on hiring 800 next year that means 400 come from Envoy. So we are looking at a little more than 30 flows per month for all of 2016.

That should also drop the upgrade times even further. Not to mention we should start flowing the protected pilot group much sooner. I knew the AA training center was playing catch up and would eventually run larger classes. I just didn't know when.
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Old 08-25-2015 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
If AA is planning on hiring 800 next year that means 400 come from Envoy. So we are looking at a little more than 30 flows per month for all of 2016.

That should also drop the upgrade times even further. Not to mention we should start flowing the protected pilot group much sooner. I knew the AA training center was playing catch up and would eventually run larger classes. I just didn't know when.
Ahhh is this the new bait to keep you guys from bailing since the holidays are around the corner? Coming January, the "Landscape" will change once again Im sure.

Sucka's.

Good Luck!
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Old 08-25-2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Ahhh is this the new bait to keep you guys from bailing since the holidays are around the corner? Coming January, the "Landscape" will change once again Im sure.

Sucka's.

Good Luck!

thungs can change so fast... The flow has always been "just around the river bend" for the last 16 years... So if they decide to say drop all E190 flying. That would negate newhires for a while, My friends that have flowed are now comuting to LGA and MIA.... do they like it... Ya. But its not as majical after waiting 16 years. And having a big lifestyle change in your mid 40's... Would have been better in our 30's as advertised...
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Old 08-25-2015 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
8yr Upgrades and 16yr to flow.

Its a good time to be an envoy pilot!


Good Luck!
Or come to PSA!! Instant upgrade and a 30 year flow with zero hope of being considered out side of the agreement and complete loss of QOL and pay through back handedness! Sounds much better here at PSA. Hope you're younger than 30, otherwise there's no chance at American.

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Old 08-25-2015 | 06:06 PM
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I dont know where you get your BS (cujo)R.I. but with Parker, Kirby, and Isomm all saying a net loss of 41-43 mainline aircraft next year due to defered deliveries and parking of older birds and the chance that the SLI will be somewhere close to done so they can start moving aircraft around I'd believe the original 170-180 flows next year max!!! not to mention the expected 200 or so undefers that have until May to make their choice. that still has the flow at over 16 years by the end of year. The only highlight of New York closing is you don't have a vote anymore!!!!
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Old 08-25-2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
But its not as majical after waiting 16 years. And having a big lifestyle change in your mid 40's... Would have been better in our 30's as advertised...
AA hadn't hired in how long.....
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