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WakeWash 08-29-2015 08:03 AM

You guys should have negotiated in-airport therapist into your contract. Yall are some of the angriest and most disgruntled pilots around. Always pointing fingers at everyone else and whining. Such a two faced group of pilots. Complain about PSA, yet yall are beyond excited to watch Republic sink and take their planes. It's unreal. You can say concessions are holding the regionals back, and that is true. But the biggest downfall of this industry is pilot groups like you. Ones who fail to see management aging everyone, and instead just whine and complain about everyone and everything else.

RyanP 08-29-2015 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by WakeWash (Post 1959539)
You guys should have negotiated in-airport therapist into your contract. Yall are some of the angriest and most disgruntled pilots around. Always pointing fingers at everyone else and whining. Such a two faced group of pilots. Complain about PSA, yet yall are beyond excited to watch Republic sink and take their planes. It's unreal. You can say concessions are holding the regionals back, and that is true. But the biggest downfall of this industry is pilot groups like you. Ones who fail to see management aging everyone, and instead just whine and complain about everyone and everything else.

Places like PSA, RAH and Mesa and the pilots willing to go there for quick movement at any cost and work for undercutting contracts are a big reason we are in this situation in the first place.

Not all of it, but without that there would be no more regional whipsaw.

Big picture, we are all part of the problem because there is zero unity.. And always some people/companies willing to screw somebody else to get ahead. Being handcuffed to Seniority lists also ruined this profession.

billyho 08-29-2015 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1959509)
I'd like to btch slap a PSA Pilot that is "frustrated". They have no freaking idea. Ohh no, reserve for 2 whole months? Upgrade could be a whole year?? OMG!! How horrible!

Sickening.

Don't hate da player, hate the game.

chrisreedrules 08-29-2015 08:54 AM

Lol it's too easy with you guys... Didn't mean to pee in your Saturday morning Cheerios! ;)

PilotJ3 08-29-2015 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by WakeWash (Post 1959539)
You guys should have negotiated in-airport therapist into your contract. Yall are some of the angriest and most disgruntled pilots around. Always pointing fingers at everyone else and whining. Such a two faced group of pilots. Complain about PSA, yet yall are beyond excited to watch Republic sink and take their planes. It's unreal. You can say concessions are holding the regionals back, and that is true. But the biggest downfall of this industry is pilot groups like you. Ones who fail to see management aging everyone, and instead just whine and complain about everyone and everything else.

Says the guy that "really wanted to go to eagle", but took the PSA kool aid.

Yes, people like you are the ones screwing the industry. Enjoy PSA...

PilotJ3 08-29-2015 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 1959600)
Lol it's too easy with you guys... Didn't mean to pee in your Saturday morning Cheerios! ;)

Nah...no worries. Happy weekend :)

WakeWash 08-29-2015 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1959610)
Says the guy that "really wanted to go to eagle", but took the PSA kool aid.

Yes, people like you are the ones screwing the industry. Enjoy PSA...

I made the right decision too. Don't be mad at me for enjoying my decision and life more than you. You make me even happier that I didn't come there.

Waitingformins 08-29-2015 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1959610)
Says the guy that "really wanted to go to eagle", but took the PSA kool aid.

Yes, people like you are the ones screwing the industry. Enjoy PSA...


Not really, the 3 year Eagle FO commuting to RSV is screwing the industry. Hes showing the company there is nothing that would force him out so go ahead and walk all over him.

The longevity pay scale screws the unity in this industry. $121 for senior captains $60 for junior ones $24 for Fo's.
I am suppose to have to sleep in the airport so a senior captain can keep up with his x-wife's spending habits.
The biggest con in this industry was the senior AE captains convincing everyone else at Eagle to "hold their line", and that it was a WO'ed fight not a senior vs. junior fight.

AdiosMikeFox 08-29-2015 02:38 PM

As per my previous post that I didn't know how many 824 had gone through -

379 out of 824.

That leaves 445 slots remaining.

So if AA hires 800 next year and Envoy lets 400 flow that places the end of the 824 in the late fall/early winter 2016.

PilotJ3 08-29-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 1959806)
As per my previous post that I didn't know how many 824 had gone through -

379 out of 824.

That leaves 445 slots remaining.

So if AA hires 800 next year and Envoy lets 400 flow that places the end of the 824 in the late fall/early winter 2016.

Yes, that means that the Protected pilots start leaving soon. That means 2010-2011 hires should start upgrading by summer.


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