very stupid but whatever. What about air Wisconsin?

 

so you heard the same info.

 

The only conflict that I see is disagreement with each others "facts". The fact is, this forum requires tolerating others. I mean.......I have to tolerate the mindless blather of people like Skyvector or a slew of other salesmen from the Envoy ranks clearly selling Envoy here with fluffed up "facts" and even outright fabrications for no other purpose but to grease their own path forward (or cushion their potential fall), so we all must be strong.

Disengagement approved.

 

Are satellite bases designed to become long-term permanent or do they just serve a temporary purpose without the requirement to commit a large amount of resources ?

If it is the latter, what is the message there ?

The AA regional network is simply in a state of transition. The pilots shortage has forced AAG to make some unplanned changes, but the future plan hasn't changed. The clues are there, one just needs to look for them without letting their own "facts" cloud their vision.

Some are and some clearly are not doing that. Another clue ?

The 824 is being accelerated a bit to ensure that arbitrated situation is no longer in play at future point X. Was it a coincidence the AA/LUS merger was consummated on December 9, 2013 just days AFTER the last Letter 3 flow and the beginning of street hiring/824 flow at AA ?

Perhaps I am simply just "out of touch" with the situation as another claims though ?

 

Yes, probably.

 

the compass flying thats 'coming back' in 2020?

 

Protected Pilots are also part of an arbitrated award. They really can't mess with either group.

 

Not sure about that:
824 = arbitration
Protected pilots = settlement
After protected pilots and new hires = contract
I think that's how it goes, not sure. Most agree that the only ones that are "safe" are the 824, beyond that, who the hell knows

 

Really? Thats news to me.



Good Luck!

 

That is my understanding. Parker seems really sure that he can entice regional pilots to his wholly owned by the flow, over having to increase pay. I would be surprised if he messed with it. Seems like his holy grail solution to the shortage of pilots willing to work for janitor wages. Its also a way to ensure that his most expensive pilots leave first. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe he would do it out the of kindness of his heart. I think he just sees it as a cheaper solution. Nice thing about the flow, you can still apply at Delta, United, Spirit, JetBlue, Atlas etc etc all you want. Just because you are waiting in line doesn't mean you can't take other opportunities as they come along. About half of the envoy pilots I talk to feel this way. They are not just sitting around waiting on the flow but its nice to have in the event that all else fails.