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#1251
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
The universe implodes. I agree with eaglefly. (And it only took one short paragraph!)
#1252
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Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
#1253
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
I'm not claiming to be a rep. I am however, very much in the know as to the day to day decisions here... Why the sudden change? You have to understand, it takes time for the 30,000 foot view to actually make it into actual concrete moves. Can you not see that here at Envoy?
Why spew the hate and vitriol against the company who pays you well now as you very much have in your recent posts? I suggest to take a deep breath, relax and just be patient. The company knows what they are doing. Don't you want to flow? Otherwise, don't let the door hit you where the sun don't shine. I hear Frontier is hiring. Go fly that bus for half of your Envoy CA pay.
Why spew the hate and vitriol against the company who pays you well now as you very much have in your recent posts? I suggest to take a deep breath, relax and just be patient. The company knows what they are doing. Don't you want to flow? Otherwise, don't let the door hit you where the sun don't shine. I hear Frontier is hiring. Go fly that bus for half of your Envoy CA pay.
I asked for rebuttal and proof, you have given none.
I am paid less now than two years ago, not including less days at home and hotels on my own dime due to the large number of late finished and early starts that far exceed the company hotel allowance. If you're in the know about future ops more than anybody else here is it's probably because you work in an office in DFW and get to go home every night. Pretty easy to talk the pro-ENY talk when you don't have to deal with the crappy conditions on the line, right? That nice cozy office where you can dismiss the hardships the hundreds on reserve have had to suck up for years now?
There's no hate. I'm asking hard questions. Questions that don't have answers. That's sheer head-banging on the wall frustration at the insanity of people repeating unicorns and rainbows when everything points to it being a lie. 30,000ft and solid undercast.
#1254
I am looking to get back into 121 flying and would like to know how good/bad the lines and reserve are for commuting purposes for envoy I Flew 3 yrs for another carrier on the crj in ord and I live in Denver.
I have read some of the posts on here and understand the good and bad. Thanks
I have read some of the posts on here and understand the good and bad. Thanks
#1256
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Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
There are about 10 lines that are commutable both sides.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.
#1257
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Joined: Mar 2007
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There are about 10 lines that are commutable both sides.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.

#1259
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Joined: Jul 2011
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There are about 10 lines that are commutable both sides.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.
There are about 6 more that start before 10 AM.
After that there are a few that finish at or around 7 pm. This borders non commutable for me.
The rest all have starts too early or after 7:30 pm. These I consider uncommutable, I do not have any flights to get home or I cannot meet the commuter policy set forth by the company.
164 lines, 14 zero/part time, the rest reserve or composite.
I have less than 10% of the lines I could call commutable. The rest will require one night in a hotel or more. Many lines have every trip requiring a hotel, sometimes on both ends.
These are hands down the worst commutable lines I have ever had at this company.
ORD EMB. I can't say what DFW, CRJ or 175 have.
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