I response to how do you treat scheduling. For some schedulers it really doesn't matter how you treat them they are just nasty. I'm always pleasant and some are pleasant back. However......some are not at all...I've been laughed at for legit requests multiple times. and have had to fight for them to honor the contract countless times. Also low man reserve they are pretty ruthless with because they think those guys and gals don't understand the contract. And they fight just to try to make you think you are wrong. It's intimidation.

Again it gets better as you get seniority and they focus more on the lower reserves. But the first year is brutal no doubt.

 

It is the same at any regional, not just Envoy. All you can do is file a grievance and wait if management decides to violate the contract on something and your CP orders you to do it. RAH, Mesa, Endeavor, none of them are any different. Anything that may be considered a work action by the pilot group is against the law and has penalties, like fines, or even jail time.

You can thank the POS waaaaaay outdated 100 year old railway labor act that we live under for that.

Mostly small things people talk about I don't have problems with. Cite the contract section they are violating and refuse it if scheduling is trying to do something wrong. Get the supervisor on the line, (you can ask for them anytime you want). They can't force you to do anything, although they might try with people that are new or pushovers because it works most of the time. Only your supervisors (Chief Pilot) can make you do something. Get your rep on the phone asap if they continue to push.. and they will try to deal with it either with the scheduling supervisors or the CP. Usually this works before it escalates into something else. I have never had anything crew scheduling related come down to a CP ordering me to do it against the contract when I refused it. I hear it has happened rarely for certain situations, but it's definitely not a normal daily occurrence. If schedulers are legitimately being "nasty", which I haven't run into. (Some are just not very friendly, not helpful at all, and unpleasant people in general, but not nasty). But if they were, This would be so easy to deal with by anyone, even a new hire. Everything is recorded. Call your rep, get the tapes pulled, they can send over the mp3 to the CP office. Problem solved. I have had an issue with a guy one time in all my time here, and they pulled the tapes, we listened to it right there on the spot, and it was dealt with.

I'm not talking about the 4am RAP Grievance (those are major issues, I agree), I mean the daily stuff they try to pull over on people.

 

True, you're right.

Ir would be mid 2021. Didnt Mr Wilson said 5.5...??? 😂😂😂😂

 

I've read several articles I agree with that have a consistent tone about oil prices. They won't return to to $80-$100/barrel range of the past, but will remain within a $55-$65/barrel range which is I believe now something like $48/barrel. OPEC is toast and the Saudi's will no longer be the swing producer that truly controls the market price. Several other OPEC producers are in trouble and Venezuela is on the verge of collapse. OPEC has maxed production in the hope of knocking out the shale business, but that is and will fail. The estimated break even cost for shale producers is about $50/barrel, so acceptable profits and stable prices are the expected future. As such, inefficient jets like 50-seat RJ's wont be parked on their economics, but on the other factor that renders them immobile.

A lack of pilots.

It may be that any glut of hiring done by Endeavor and others is simply to ensure that larger, advanced RJ delivery schedules are not threatened, which is a smart move. That same situation may just be why Parker is hesitant to commit more E-175's to Envoy as even with everything they can do, Envoy is looking like its contraction may be uncontrollable in the future. I've heard another round a 40 E-175's might be already worked out (just rumor), but banking on Envoy being anything more then an 80 jet airline in the future is risky. Presently at 1300 pilots and change (or so it's said), Envoy could burn the remainder of 824's to AA, have present outside attrition and BARELY staff an 80-jet/800 pilot airline in about 18 months. At that point, the present flow of the PP's threatens the viability of the carrier and something must be done, but what is the question.

 

Theoretically, yes, but see post above regarding my opinion on the Protected Pilots.

Something has gotta give by then as the present equation simply won't provide those flow projections unless Envoy is willing to park aircraft and relinquish flying just to flow pilots to AA. At some point, there would be nothing left to park or transfer but E-175's and I can't see that. The 824's might go close to planned (but metered to minimum), but the PP agreement is ripe for alteration, be it by force or more likely agreement, even if reluctantly.

 

Unfortunately, you are likely to be unpleasantly disappointed. As a PP or less, your chances of flowing in a reasonable time frame grow longer each month that Envoy falls short of hiring between 35 and 38 people.

Think of it this way, each month that only 15 new hires show up, your flow chances go down exponentially.

Endeavor might not pay off in the long run for this guy, but it sure beats Envoy hands down.

 

Anyone know how many in today's class?

 

Any idea of Reserve times out of ORD on the crj and erj

 

Consolidation will solve some problems for AAG.

 

8 New hires in todays class. All E175! This aint much for their planning.

Time to look at options.