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Old 06-13-2016, 04:24 PM
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Trying to decide between envoy and Skywest for an ORD base .Any opinions would be great .
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Old 06-13-2016, 04:47 PM
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Go to Skywest. Just got screwed out of 10k since they won't pay FOs currently in training the extra 10k difference from the new sign bonus. Unbelievable.


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Old 06-13-2016, 06:17 PM
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Go to Skywest. Just got screwed out of 10k since they won't pay FOs currently in training the extra 10k difference from the new sign bonus. Unbelievable.
That is kind of how a "NEWHIRE" bonus works. Our current FO's didn't get the $10K you got. If it means that much to you, go to PSA or even better Endeavor.

I don't personally agree with the newhire only bonus structure. I think that Endeavor's Bonus structure demonstrates a more well rounded approach to attraction and retention but even it falls short. If the regional airlines paid an appropriate compensation to their pilots from the start, they wouldn't all need to fight over a minimal pilot supply. There would be plenty of young men and women seeking a pilot career. All current incentive programs are still trying to avoid the basic economic principle at play here. Supply and Demand.

I'm sorry that you are missing out on the additional bonus money but you will find many aspects of this career are not "fair and just". That goes for life in general actually.
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane View Post
Go to Skywest. Just got screwed out of 10k since they won't pay FOs currently in training the extra 10k difference from the new sign bonus. Unbelievable.


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Really??? You know, in this industry, 90% of it is about timing. The other 10% is dumb luck.

Makes you wanna go back and finish training at Compass, doesn't it?

Patience, grasshopper.
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:53 PM
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I'm an envoy guy who wants the best for us
Andy advice might be bad because I can't see the future


However right now hands down goto skywest
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane View Post
Go to Skywest. Just got screwed out of 10k since they won't pay FOs currently in training the extra 10k difference from the new sign bonus. Unbelievable.


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Then I should had being paid 5k, 4 yrs ago when they introduced it. Also 10k for my previous part 135 operation back in 2009-2010.

That's the way it is...you are already in, though luck. I never got a bonus until the retention. Some guys got 5k and the Jan/February guys got the retention money.

It's just part of the game.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:08 PM
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My CJO is a couple weeks old , guess it doesn't include the 15k bonus .
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:09 PM
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Trying to decide between envoy and Skywest for an ORD base .Any opinions would be great .
SkyWest.

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Old 06-13-2016, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver View Post
Read on the other site that July schedules are bad. All 4 day trips with 2 days off in between low time lines. Is this normal?
It's the "new" normal, yes, and it blows! Line are the worst I've ever seen!
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:26 PM
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Some weeks might have 2 days off, some have 3 days off (average trips), some weeks have 4+ days off between work. Some months you end up with 6-10+ days off between two months transitioning, some months you might get 1 day off. Depends on what you bid, what you want, and seniority. Every line is different.

You can't have 14-15 days off 4day trip line with only 2 days off EVERY week. Obviously you get more days off than that. Look at a calendar and do the math with 15 days off in a month between 4 day trips.

You might have (4) 4days a month. Or (3) 4 days and a (1) 3 day or whatever. It varies.
So doing 4 on 2 off is good? Especially when they're non commutable? So yeah at the end of the month it gets better, but in-between your not home for 2 weeks, yeah sounds great. Tonight's email proved how bad schedules are. I Hear Dic didn't have a chance to let Sam under his desk today, was he busy with you?

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