New Envoy Information
12-03-2015, 08:23 PM
#451
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Originally Posted by Eject
Think of the -$250/month as an insurance policy. If you bust an altitude and get violated, you don't have to explain it in your Delta interview (if you are so lucky to ever get one), as you already have a guaranteed job with AA. If you lose or don't want to keep a log book, you don't have to worry...because you already have a job with AA. If you fail a check ride once, or every year during recurrent, you won't have to explain it in your United interview (if you are lucky enough to ever get one), as you already have a guaranteed job with AA. If you get a few speeding tickets, a bankruptcy, a minor misdemeanor (stuff happens), you don't have to explain it at your FedEx interview....just sayin'!
So how many screw-ups like any of the above fore-mentioned would get a pilot terminated anyways? Does one have to screw up pretty bad on more than one occasion, or is it fairly common industry wide? Just curious.
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12-04-2015, 04:39 AM
#452
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[QUOTE=Inclined plane;2021327]So how many screw-ups like any of the above fore-mentioned would get a pilot terminated anyways? Does one have to screw up pretty bad on more than one occasion, or is it fairly common industry wide? Just curious.
Union. Expect for skywest I think all regionals are union. Hard to get fired. And most who do get fired the union get them there job back with back pay. Some were on the news for flying drunk and came back.
Union. Expect for skywest I think all regionals are union. Hard to get fired. And most who do get fired the union get them there job back with back pay. Some were on the news for flying drunk and came back.
12-04-2015, 04:56 AM
#453
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
If anyone is seeking information about Envoy, I would strongly caution against listening to people who either:
#1: Have never worked at Envoy
Or
#2: No longer work at Envoy and have an axe to grind.
Not only are they pushing an agenda and feel a need to justify their move, they harbor deep bitter feelings towards a management group that no longer exists post merger with US Airways.
eaglefly and emb145 are but two examples. Not even when I was an officer in the military and had to babysit a squadron did I see so much crap and immaturity be flung around. You give civilian trained pilots a bad name that they don't deserve.
#1: Have never worked at Envoy
Or
#2: No longer work at Envoy and have an axe to grind.
Not only are they pushing an agenda and feel a need to justify their move, they harbor deep bitter feelings towards a management group that no longer exists post merger with US Airways.
eaglefly and emb145 are but two examples. Not even when I was an officer in the military and had to babysit a squadron did I see so much crap and immaturity be flung around. You give civilian trained pilots a bad name that they don't deserve.
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3? Better yet, as prior military leadership, shouldn't you be able to see the big picture?
By this I mean to add everything up and come to the conclusion that yes, the 2.5/6 may work, but many things have to fall into place for it to happen. Thus making it not a guarantee.
I believe this thread to not be truly Envoy Information. Rather it is a place where the blinded Envoyers can go to sing kumbayaa and profess their undying love for all things Envoy. Perhaps a new thread titled Envoy Propaganda is in order where all negative talk about Envoy is banned.
In this utopian world, your fellow Envoy admirers can crow about the 2.5/6 and how Envoy is the greatest regional on the face of the Earth without any interference from detractors or someone with an axe to grind.
12-04-2015, 05:27 AM
#454
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Originally Posted by emb145
The travesty revealed your statement is that as prior enlisted mil, I would be offering you a snappy salute and addressing you as Sir were we to cross paths while in service.
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3? Better yet, as prior military leadership, shouldn't you be able to see the big picture?
By this I mean to add everything up and come to the conclusion that yes, the 2.5/6 may work, but many things have to fall into place for it to happen. Thus making it not a guarantee.
I believe this thread to not be truly Envoy Information. Rather it is a place where the blinded Envoyers can go to sing kumbayaa and profess their undying love for all things Envoy. Perhaps a new thread titled Envoy Propaganda is in order where all negative talk about Envoy is banned.
In this utopian world, your fellow Envoy admirers can crow about the 2.5/6 and how Envoy is the greatest regional on the face of the Earth without any interference from detractors or someone with an axe to grind.
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3? Better yet, as prior military leadership, shouldn't you be able to see the big picture?
By this I mean to add everything up and come to the conclusion that yes, the 2.5/6 may work, but many things have to fall into place for it to happen. Thus making it not a guarantee.
I believe this thread to not be truly Envoy Information. Rather it is a place where the blinded Envoyers can go to sing kumbayaa and profess their undying love for all things Envoy. Perhaps a new thread titled Envoy Propaganda is in order where all negative talk about Envoy is banned.
In this utopian world, your fellow Envoy admirers can crow about the 2.5/6 and how Envoy is the greatest regional on the face of the Earth without any interference from detractors or someone with an axe to grind.
The only guys saying that the upgrade is 2.5 are Ric Wilson and Cujo664 (not even the real guy). Congratulations you made it to Spirit, nobody cares. The current situation here is not the same as when you were flying here. Things have been improving slowly.
12-04-2015, 05:34 AM
#455
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Posts: 439
Originally Posted by emb145
The travesty revealed your statement is that as prior enlisted mil, I would be offering you a snappy salute and addressing you as Sir were we to cross paths while in service.
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3? Better yet, as prior military leadership, shouldn't you be able to see the big picture?
By this I mean to add everything up and come to the conclusion that yes, the 2.5/6 may work, but many things have to fall into place for it to happen. Thus making it not a guarantee.
I believe this thread to not be truly Envoy Information. Rather it is a place where the blinded Envoyers can go to sing kumbayaa and profess their undying love for all things Envoy. Perhaps a new thread titled Envoy Propaganda is in order where all negative talk about Envoy is banned.
In this utopian world, your fellow Envoy admirers can crow about the 2.5/6 and how Envoy is the greatest regional on the face of the Earth without any interference from detractors or someone with an axe to grind.
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3? Better yet, as prior military leadership, shouldn't you be able to see the big picture?
By this I mean to add everything up and come to the conclusion that yes, the 2.5/6 may work, but many things have to fall into place for it to happen. Thus making it not a guarantee.
I believe this thread to not be truly Envoy Information. Rather it is a place where the blinded Envoyers can go to sing kumbayaa and profess their undying love for all things Envoy. Perhaps a new thread titled Envoy Propaganda is in order where all negative talk about Envoy is banned.
In this utopian world, your fellow Envoy admirers can crow about the 2.5/6 and how Envoy is the greatest regional on the face of the Earth without any interference from detractors or someone with an axe to grind.
IMHO it's because you're that self-centered of a person that you want to see envoy fail just to validate the fact that you bailed out when things are finally starting to look promising around here. Am I wrong?
12-04-2015, 05:53 AM
#456
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Envoy
December 2 at 8:48pm ·
Christmas Epaulets for Charity. Envoy pilots may wear Christmas Epualets for the month of December. They're available for purchase at AA flight offices, crew outfitters at DFW and through their website: christmasepaulets.com. They're $20 for a pair and 50% of the profits are donated to snowball express which helps kids of fallen soldiers. #envoyair
December 2 at 8:48pm ·
Christmas Epaulets for Charity. Envoy pilots may wear Christmas Epualets for the month of December. They're available for purchase at AA flight offices, crew outfitters at DFW and through their website: christmasepaulets.com. They're $20 for a pair and 50% of the profits are donated to snowball express which helps kids of fallen soldiers. #envoyair
12-04-2015, 05:58 AM
#457
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Posts: 200
Originally Posted by Eject
Think of the -$250/month as an insurance policy. If you bust an altitude and get violated, you don't have to explain it in your Delta interview (if you are so lucky to ever get one), as you already have a guaranteed job with AA. If you lose or don't want to keep a log book, you don't have to worry...because you already have a job with AA. If you fail a check ride once, or every year during recurrent, you won't have to explain it in your United interview (if you are lucky enough to ever get one), as you already have a guaranteed job with AA. If you get a few speeding tickets, a bankruptcy, a minor misdemeanor (stuff happens), you don't have to explain it at your FedEx interview....just sayin'!
12-04-2015, 05:06 PM
#458
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Posts: 1,731
Originally Posted by emb145
Why is a prior military officer working at Envoy? Shouldn't you be competitive for the Big 3?
1 F-18
1 F-16
1 B-52
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12-04-2015, 06:18 PM
#459
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anyone have a clue as to when new hires are gonna be trained in the 175? I have a class in late January, and am wondering what I could expect for an assignment. I know CRJ out of Chicago is what many people are getting, (which would be great, as I am from there) but the 175 out of Dallas would be great for reasons more senior people may not agree with. But I digress, any input is appreciated, thanks!
12-04-2015, 06:36 PM
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Rumor has it that they "may" start new hires in the 175 in March or April. Aircraft assignment isn't made until training is underway, and they allow people to pick in order of oldest to youngest in class. If you're over 35-40, you would most likely get your choice.
HTH
HTH
Originally Posted by waker92
anyone have a clue as to when new hires are gonna be trained in the 175? I have a class in late January, and am wondering what I could expect for an assignment. I know CRJ out of Chicago is what many people are getting, (which would be great, as I am from there) but the 175 out of Dallas would be great for reasons more senior people may not agree with. But I digress, any input is appreciated, thanks!
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