Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

New Envoy Information

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-2015 | 03:25 AM
  #451  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 344
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BobJenkins
All good points to consider, as is the flow to AA. And per diem went up to $1.85. Now if only they let those pesky new hires start out in the E175...
All new hires will be 175 soon essentially bypassing the seniority system, they will be holding lines on the 175 while 4 year fo's sit 145 reserve.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 06:41 AM
  #452  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Take also in consideration the company pays for 4 hotels a month. If they cancel or you lose your overnight because of misconnection, you get also a hotel that doesn't count toward the 4. That also include to RSV...

No crashpad need it, $250-400 more in your pocket. You also get AA flight benefits which are the same as mainline.
Who cares about this if you live in base?
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 06:45 AM
  #453  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by eaglefly
# of posts is irrelevant and it's not how much you've said, but WHAT you've said. Need I say more ?

You present little difference from the usual suspects, so how can one differentiate you ?
Seriously, please just stop talking. No one wants your input, thoughts, concerns, or nonsense. Just put a bandaid on your rectum because you are obviously butt hurt about something.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 07:06 AM
  #454  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,041
Likes: 0
From: GV Captain
Default

Originally Posted by RawHide
All new hires will be 175 soon essentially bypassing the seniority system, they will be holding lines on the 175 while 4 year fo's sit 145 reserve.
Whats Cujo doing about this?


Good Luck!
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:09 AM
  #455  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by adspilot
Seriously, please just stop talking. No one wants your input, thoughts, concerns, or nonsense. Just put a bandaid on your rectum because you are obviously butt hurt about something.
Yet another self-appointed forum spokesmen lays down the law.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:19 AM
  #456  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BobJenkins
.........Envoy ..Xjet ... Mesa ... Horizon .. Compass
Year 1 . 26.... 23 ..... . 22......... 30....... 36
Year 2 . 34 ... 39 ... ... 29......... 40....... 37
Year 3 . 37 . . 40 .. . .. 32......... 41....... 39
True but at Compass and Mesa FOs are upgrading within 12-24 months, at Envoy you'll be capped after 4 years, no more money unless you upgrade. I'm not recommending Envoy unless the upgrades come down significancy from the current 8 year wait.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:38 AM
  #457  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by mr25cents
True but at Compass and Mesa FOs are upgrading within 12-24 months, at Envoy you'll be capped after 4 years, no more money unless you upgrade. I'm not recommending Envoy unless the upgrades come down significancy from the current 8 year wait.
Remember that any upgrade engine requires sufficient fuel to run at expected speed. Post #421 hypothesizes 1800 pilots at Envoy and 1600 or so all gone either flow to AA or elsewhere in 4-4.5 years and for that upgrade engine to continue to run without seizing, 1600 pilots must be hired at Envoy in the same period. The plan is to upgrade 205-250 in 2016 at Envoy, meaning the next 18 months the remainder of the F/O's would need to upgrade and Envoy would also have to hire perhaps 800-850 pilots in a burst in that 18 months or the upgrade engine starts backfiring and risks a seize.


Just something to consider.............
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:49 AM
  #458  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by mr25cents
True but at Compass and Mesa FOs are upgrading within 12-24 months, at Envoy you'll be capped after 4 years, no more money unless you upgrade. I'm not recommending Envoy unless the upgrades come down significancy from the current 8 year wait.
IS and WAS are two words you need to understand. Upgrade time WAS eight years. Upgrade time IS ___ who the hell knows, but if you say pilots that get hired at Envoy today aren't going to upgrade for 8 years then you are smoking crack.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:51 AM
  #459  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by mr25cents
True but at Compass and Mesa FOs are upgrading within 12-24 months, at Envoy you'll be capped after 4 years, no more money unless you upgrade. I'm not recommending Envoy unless the upgrades come down significancy from the current 8 year wait.
Careful my friend. What you've just stated amounts to hate speech in the eyes of the Envoy Elite. Watch out or the Envoy police might be all over you like flies to you know what.
Reply
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:54 AM
  #460  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by adspilot
IS and WAS are two words you need to understand. Upgrade time WAS eight years. Upgrade time IS ___ who the hell knows, but if you say pilots that get hired at Envoy today aren't going to upgrade for 8 years then you are smoking crack.
Upgrade time is only as good as the latest award. That's what upgrade time IS today. Latest award makes the junior Envoy CA around 8 years and a couple of months.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
satpak77
Envoy Airlines
82
03-25-2020 05:55 AM
heading180
Regional
6398
08-18-2014 01:11 PM
bernoulli1129
Regional
2045
07-17-2014 12:05 PM
DFWEMB
Envoy Airlines
53
02-03-2014 10:02 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices