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12-08-2015, 03:27 PM
#471
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There's minimal movement right now. Large scale upward movement is possible, but management needs to get their shiz in gear if it's going to happen. If it happens IMO it's not going to start until mid- to late 2016. Yes, downsizing is still in the plan, which may be part of the reason management is so slow to shift gears. We're still fat on pilots. No surprise they're dragging their feet, really; this company operates on stamping out fires after they've started, not on preventing them in the first place.
12-08-2015, 04:28 PM
#473
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
There's minimal movement right now. Large scale upward movement is possible, but management needs to get their shiz in gear if it's going to happen. If it happens IMO it's not going to start until mid- to late 2016. Yes, downsizing is still in the plan, which may be part of the reason management is so slow to shift gears. We're still fat on pilots. No surprise they're dragging their feet, really; this company operates on stamping out fires after they've started, not on preventing them in the first place.
But, this is normal here.
Things will start moving fast starting next month.
12-08-2015, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Your to kind, management don't put the fires out after they started them, they just let them burn out on there own.
12-08-2015, 08:15 PM
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Are we really still shrinking? I thought I'd heard that now that the 175 is coming on, and the CRJ's are staying, we were going to maintain the same size in 2016. With 30 flows/month and the 175 training bubble, hopefully reserve will get a lot shorter in 2016.
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12-08-2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Are we really still shrinking? I thought I'd heard that now that the 175 is coming on, and the CRJ's are staying, we were going to maintain the same size in 2016. With 30 flows/month and the 175 training bubble, hopefully reserve will get a lot shorter in 2016.
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I believe that if they start getting back the 145s from TSA and XJet, it will be "growth". Also as other can't fulfill their contracts we might see AAG activate some options so we can cover others.
I think that we haven't seen this since we are just starting with the 175 trainings. If we were signed the contract two years ago, maybe there would be another history since we would be receiving probably E-175 # 25 or so by now.
12-09-2015, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by waker92
anyone have a clue as to when new hires are gonna be trained in the 175? I have a class in late January, and am wondering what I could expect for an assignment. I know CRJ out of Chicago is what many people are getting, (which would be great, as I am from there) but the 175 out of Dallas would be great for reasons more senior people may not agree with. But I digress, any input is appreciated, thanks!
12-09-2015, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
It's my understanding that we will only shrink 4 planes for 2016, even when they start sending planes to PSA.
I believe that if they start getting back the 145s from TSA and XJet, it will be "growth". Also as other can't fulfill their contracts we might see AAG activate some options so we can cover others.
I think that we haven't seen this since we are just starting with the 175 trainings. If we were signed the contract two years ago, maybe there would be another history since we would be receiving probably E-175 # 25 or so by now.
I believe that if they start getting back the 145s from TSA and XJet, it will be "growth". Also as other can't fulfill their contracts we might see AAG activate some options so we can cover others.
I think that we haven't seen this since we are just starting with the 175 trainings. If we were signed the contract two years ago, maybe there would be another history since we would be receiving probably E-175 # 25 or so by now.
12-09-2015, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
Last I heard, which it changes rapidly, is that we won't actually be shrinking our fleet count for 2016
We do are getting applicants and new guys, but without vacancy bids or announcements, the pool will dry soon again.
I guess now is the time we are starting to see more guys from the CFI programs.
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