Pntbllr233

I believe the $60,000 is based on 1,000 HR/YR. $37,900 + $2,100. That's based on year 3 pay. So when they say you max out at year 4 that means year 4 on the pay scale and not at 4 years with the company?

TrinityDawn

Yes, they are. In nearly 11 years at Eagle/Envoy, these are the worst schedules I've seen in terms of productivity (line value), days off, commutability, cadence, variety (1-2-3-4 day trips), and with the highest TAFB.

It's also been the worst in terms of reserve utilization, having open trips for the next day with zero reserves available, turn backs, ability to drop legs or trips or get PVD's or PO's, and the sheer number of legal and illegal junior man occurrences I have ever seen.

As ANYONE that has been at Eagle/Envoy through the Letter 3 debacle and the subsequent grievances trying to get the company to comply with the original language will tell you, what the company SAYS and what the company DOES are two entirely different things. Given our current staffing situation, I put zero faith in this prognostication.

cbrittle

So without knowing me and all me previous success in business you'll diagnose me by remote control as having SHS? Lol! I've hired and fired a number of guys just like you. All talk and short on delivery. The airline biz is my second career for fun! I just left an airline because it was incapable of improving; no resources and an inability of a process of continuous improvement. You clearly have issues with Envoy....why are you here? Are you afraid to quit? Based on your comments here, don't respond, go type up a resignation letter to your base CP. Better yet, I've attached one for your use. I find comical listening to raskels like you habitually complain but do nothing about it. Just use my attachment to quit. If you can't do it, give me the names and address and I'll do it for you. But you won't, you'll hang out here and complain. Instead of resolving important conflicts in your professional career you'll choose to waste your time here.

11/17/2016
Company Name
Address
City, ST Zip


Hi ______

Please accept this letter as notice of resignation from my position as XXX. My last day of employment will be December 2nd, 2016. I realize that moving on to another company/opportunity is best for me and my family.
All the best and I look forward to staying in touch with you.
Sincerely,

XXXXXXX

DilsonWic

Wow. You sure wasted a lot of your time. And it's scary a guy with your attitude is in charge of an aircraft.

Adios! Crazy.

mdot

Very simply and factually— average TAFB is at a record high here. Many lines with over 400hrs TAFB that pay in the 75-85hr range. These are actual figures and not just a "vocal minority" opinion.

Smutter

Worse on the crj, lines are between 70-80.

cbrittle

I appreciate your concern for my time management! Lol. Actually, the opposite is true....disgruntled employees with a bad attitude are of greatest concern to the FAA, company and its passengers. My "attitude" is surprise that you post so negatively about envoy but choose to stay here. What do you call that syndrome? Lol. In all sincerity, hope you find someplace where you can be happy.

Pedro4President

It's base sallary at 75 hrs per month. 5k for per diem. 22100 for the bonus. It's actuall a little on the low side for an estimate.

And by the way you can't win this with cr700. He is just going to keep making stuff up about how the schedules are not that bad. But have you ever meet anyone who actually thinks these schedules are good? It's the running joke how bad they are. He works in an office so his 9-5 is pretty good.

Pedro4President

Hey just a heads up you might not want to express that point of view with you when you show up here next week. Especially when you are getting paid more than any other FO on property and you find it hard to see why someone is upset at the company. Those senior FOs and junior captains you will be flying with went through 5 base closures, bankruptcy, stagnation, and have been hit twice recently with concessionary contracts, threats of shutting us down, and a big FU we don't have to pay you more money we will just pay new hires 20k bonuses to keep this place a float.

Glad to have you here but telling a gu who spent 5,6,7,8 years here to quit and go to the bottom somewhere else is a huge insult especially coming for a new guy.

DilsonWic

YUP! Can't reason with arrogant, stupid, and crazy. But he'll get a rude awakening with his "2nd career"