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06-11-2022, 10:27 AM
#6851
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Semi-Retired...
Posts: 3,123
Originally Posted by Kudzu
Did you even read the source documents? or just post your usual stupid complaint ....... This is a great Deal. The Company is saying that every pilot gets a 5 year flow to AA -or- boost in compensation to the 20 yr Captain rate. The 20 yr CAPT rate after 2024 is $157.00 far away the best in the regional industry - This is the contract til 2029. Line Check Airmen get 100% override.
Edit, disregard. Just realized they're throwing in an end date, instead of saying as part of the existing CBA which becomes amendable in 2024 also.
That's interesting too. When the CBA goes into section six, you immediately snap back to the old rates....
06-11-2022, 10:35 AM
#6852
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
No your right, its 2 year. And buffalo breath before you is misrepresenting facts once again. If your in the training center and your at 5th year you go to 20 year pay scale.
but its not bad, overall. Regarding dollars work rules still stink.
but its not bad, overall. Regarding dollars work rules still stink.
06-11-2022, 10:39 AM
#6853
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 181
Originally Posted by Kudzu
Did you even read the source documents? or just post your usual stupid complaint ....... This is a great Deal. The Company is saying that every pilot gets a 5 year flow to AA -or- boost in compensation to the 20 yr Captain rate. The 20 yr CAPT rate after 2024 is $157.00 far away the best in the regional industry - This is the contract til 2029. Line Check Airmen get 100% override.
06-11-2022, 11:29 AM
#6854
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 290
Originally Posted by Cujo665
Why was there no pilot vote?
how can the MEC say this is not a significant change to the CBA compensation rates?
this should have been voted down with that two year sunset clause. It’s a bandaid.
permanent raises, not bandaids.
management is using the commonly held - and true - fact that you can bail to almost any major or legacy before this LOA expires, so it’s okay for everybody today. However, if a big recession hits and hiring stops you’re back to being screwed in two years. Shortsighted by the MEC to approve this
how can the MEC say this is not a significant change to the CBA compensation rates?
this should have been voted down with that two year sunset clause. It’s a bandaid.
permanent raises, not bandaids.
management is using the commonly held - and true - fact that you can bail to almost any major or legacy before this LOA expires, so it’s okay for everybody today. However, if a big recession hits and hiring stops you’re back to being screwed in two years. Shortsighted by the MEC to approve this
06-11-2022, 01:02 PM
#6856
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 8
Originally Posted by SwampChump
Now throw in AA seniority when you upgrade and you've locked in the majority of the pilot group. Pay is nice, but seniority is everything.
06-11-2022, 02:32 PM
#6859
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 661
Originally Posted by iahflyr
So what are the pay rates effective September 2024?
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