CRJ. Longer legs. Tons of 5 legs on that WSCOD.

 

Thanks much!

 

Bingo.


Filler

 

CRJ has longer legs, ERJ generally shorter. The ERJ is a much larger fleet, in the past that meant a much bigger variety of schedules available to bid, which was beneficial to many. Recently however schedules have very little variety (they are almost all 4 day trips, used to have a lot of day trips, 2 day back to backs, 3 days and 4 days), so that benefit is gone. Staffing levels on each vary depending on who exactly is flowing that month, who is upgrading to where, and which new hires are coming out of training. I've only flown the ERJ and I really like it. Easy to land, don't mind the lack of automation.

I know nothing about the PSA delivery schedule of CRJs, not sure if anyone does. Even if we send them away, there are benefits to being displaced.

 

Good info! Thanks!

 

Not even close, little troll.

 

Semantics. We were threatened with liquidation if we didn't agree to management demands for pay cuts during a time of record profits. Spin that any way you like, it doesn't change that underlying fact.

The 16 year contract and it's associated pay rates were one of the few things that made life bearable at Envoy for the "lost decade" after 9/11. Senior pilots that had never intended to spend their careers at a "regional" were at least able to approach mainline wages and afford to send their kids to college like they had hoped. Those 18 year pay rates were an insurance policy for those of us in the middle of the seniority list should another 9/11 scale event occur. If management was so sure the flow would be successful, then the 12/4 demand was simply another way to kick us should we be down again.

The company of Envoy succeeding, and it's employees succeeding on a personal and professional level are two, totally separate goalposts.

Envoy being able to staff those shiny 175's to max utilization and controllable completion factor, while blaming crew cancellations on weather is management's day-to-day priority. They have to SHOW Parker's cabal that they can do the job better than the next ****ty regional.

HOW that job gets done is of no concern to them. The manager of crew scheduling's attitude is but one of many indicators of this. Who cares of they attempt to violate the contract six ways to Sunday to see what they can get away with, those pilots still have the flow, right? Who cares if these pilots are missing funerals, weddings, or other important events in their lives, they still have the flow, right? You can see the ridiculousness of that argument when carried to it's logical extension. This idea that we should agree to indentured servitude because "one day things will finally get better" is nothing more than a carrot dangling from a stick that is taped to our backs by managers that don't value us as employees or human beings.

Carrot, twine, stick, tape, new-hire. Some assembly required.

 

^^^^^ what she said.

Honestly I'm pretty sure we are getting trolled here by Dacuj

 

Can any Envoy guys explain the "Buddy Pass" setup at the company, and why the new-hire packet has "Buddy Pass" in quotation marks?

 

Has anyone heard when we are suppose to get some relief from always being JM? It doesn't matter if you're reserve or line holder, you're going to get JM. Plus if you get so lucky as to get RA to go to ORD, you might as well forget about trying to get back to DFW within 5 days. I can't keep doing this. It's creating havoc with the wife and kiddo. I can expect to do this sort of thing for a short time when I was a noob but not ten years seniority.