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Old 12-21-2016 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
Hey if I were selling an illegal substance to a stranger and I ask him if he is a cop, if he is, he has to tell me right? Um, I'm asking for a friend.
Yeah - sure - thats why criminals are forbidden from asking that of undercover cops.

You might be thinking of entrapment - but that is, I think, when LEO solicits the criminal - 'Better call SAUL!'
Old 12-21-2016 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fatman
Anyone from the Dec19th class able to use their travel benefits? It's a shame that they brought us in for two days on the beliefs that all benefits would be available over the holidays.

I just got a call from training today at about 2 o'clock telling me that my.envoy.com is now active and I can use my travel benefits
Old 12-21-2016 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Welcome aboard, I truly hope things work out for you here.
Thank you and yes, I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic
Old 12-21-2016 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Well unfortunately a fact is a fact. I know in the liberal world a fact is only what they say but a company stooge, greasy hair used car salsman
That stretches the truth to extreme is just that.

If you want respect at the cost of honesty well you are out of luck.
I understand your point but see how you got your point across with out insulting me. Anyways I guess people here don't care because this is a public forum. What Im saying is let's just be a little more professional.
Old 12-21-2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cr700
The flow is not "worthless." It's contractual. It has a value and a very high one at that. The Envoy hate on here is ridiculous. It's generated only by a few malcontents who are very aggressive in their posts. I've got to say that they are VERY dedicated to their cause. I'll give them that.


"It's contractual."
Yeah, I'm sure that will stop 'em. A grievance is such a powerful thing to stop management from...

NOTHING.

Flow is a nice backup plan but honestly, if anyone but Allegiant called, See Ya!


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Old 12-21-2016 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
Hey if I were selling an illegal substance to a stranger and I ask him if he is a cop, if he is, he has to tell me right? Um, I'm asking for a friend.
Negative sir. Tell "your friend" not to trust anyone!
Old 12-21-2016 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by criticalaoa
I understand your point but see how you got your point across with out insulting me. Anyways I guess people here don't care because this is a public forum. What Im saying is let's just be a little more professional.

You can go to Envoy, get your big bonus, apply to all the big boys, and if if your schedule gets unbearable, go to a diff regional worst case scenario after two years. You don't want the pilots on this thread biting their tongue You want all of us employees to speak the truth even if it's not professional It will give you a much better feel for what it's like to work here UND is an awesome aviation school. I had a bunch of friends that went there and they are all good pilots. Don't worry so much about working at AA. Take the first legacy that hires you.
Old 12-22-2016 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fatman
Anyone from the Dec19th class able to use their travel benefits? It's a shame that they brought us in for two days on the beliefs that all benefits would be available over the holidays.


And that is the essence of Envoy..... My guess is to call the training dept and get them to work on your problem. I sincerely hope they are there still to get your benefits started. Jeez....
Old 12-22-2016 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700
The flow is not "worthless." It's contractual. It has a value and a very high one at that. The Envoy hate on here is ridiculous. It's generated only by a few malcontents who are very aggressive in their posts. I've got to say that they are VERY dedicated to their cause. I'll give them that.


Contractual. What does that mean? Hmmm..... According to my 10 plus years experience at this company, it means it's open to interpretation. Not so "rock solid" like you claim. Remember the section on reserve proffering? That was rock solid once. You proffer, and get your assignment. But nope, not now. You get a "preassigned" ass rape regardless of seniority. It is not in the contract, but it's being done. How about JMs? Contract states we can deny them for personal 'obligations'. But nope company comes and says, no, that means emergencies. Now since staffing is so screwed up they are saying any JM denied is automatic MA. Regardless.

I like your roses, but I can still see the shytte.

Edit: I've elected to continue so the outside guys can see what's going on here.

The company has elected to stop printing the monthly bid packets because they say it is part of the "EFB agreement". No such thing was said nor written in the LOA. But yet, here we are, open to interpretation once again.

I wonder what would happen if ALPA would start the same practices. Oh wait! They get sued, and would lose!!

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Old 12-23-2016 | 09:14 AM
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Do the iPads come with a data plan or even data capable, or they wifi only?

Are you allowed to use them for personal use, Skype, email, etc. or are they company use only?

What programs are you using for charts and weather?
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