Envoy
10-07-2017, 08:08 AM
#4971
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
EMJ is the Embraer 145.
Thanks for clarification
10-07-2017, 08:46 AM
#4972
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by Bombinha
ok guy here it goes.
Is the flow really working? I mean they are not screwing you guys up are they?
And if so do you have to be a captain at Envoy already before migrating to AA? is that right?
Is the flow really working? I mean they are not screwing you guys up are they?
And if so do you have to be a captain at Envoy already before migrating to AA? is that right?
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10-07-2017, 09:32 AM
#4974
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: E-175 CA
Posts: 339
Originally Posted by DilsonWic
When AA runs classes we send 25 a month. When they aren’t hiring we send 0. We are supposed to have at least 50% of new hire spots, they are going to fall short of it this year. So it’s like the as seen on tv stuff. It works, but not as good as advertised. The problem with the flow now is, after the protected pilots, the amount that flow decreases and that is adding to the flow time, as the new hire classes are bigger.
10-07-2017, 09:32 AM
#4975
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Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by DilsonWic
When AA runs classes we send 25 a month. When they aren’t hiring we send 0. We are supposed to have at least 50% of new hire spots, they are going to fall short of it this year. So it’s like the as seen on tv stuff. It works, but not as good as advertised. The problem with the flow now is, after the protected pilots, the amount that flow decreases and that is adding to the flow time, as the new hire classes are bigger.
10-07-2017, 09:49 AM
#4976
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Bid closes today. The past two weeks had been a complete cluster in regards to the unions handling of this new bid. There has been nonstop misinformation that has been given out by the union. Questions still remain unanswered as to how the bid is going to work. With just days before the bid closes, the union is still putting out new information. Changes need to be made in the union.
For me this is the first time I thought they are actively working against the pilot group and helping the company get by with the status quo. Good luck to everyone.
For me this is the first time I thought they are actively working against the pilot group and helping the company get by with the status quo. Good luck to everyone.
10-07-2017, 11:17 AM
#4977
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Posts: 687
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Bid closes today. The past two weeks had been a complete cluster in regards to the unions handling of this new bid. There has been nonstop misinformation that has been given out by the union. Questions still remain unanswered as to how the bid is going to work. With just days before the bid closes, the union is still putting out new information. Changes need to be made in the union.
For me this is the first time I thought they are actively working against the pilot group and helping the company get by with the status quo. Good luck to everyone.
For me this is the first time I thought they are actively working against the pilot group and helping the company get by with the status quo. Good luck to everyone.
10-07-2017, 11:22 AM
#4978
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Position: B737 CA
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Flow is the lesser of the hard number or the percentage. If AA only takes 40 new hires in a month, we must send 20 flows per the contract. If they hire 60 new pilots, we must send 25 per the contract. Those are minimum numbers, and you can only count on mgmt to follow those. And after the Protected Pilots are done, the numbers adjust downward. Anything above that is gravy.
AA will probably have trouble getting pilots directly as well.
10-07-2017, 11:32 AM
#4979
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Originally Posted by Bombinha
With the pilot shortage now kind of becoming real do you think they will adjust the flow on a newer contract or get an LOA for the current one?
AA will probably have trouble getting pilots directly as well.
AA will probably have trouble getting pilots directly as well.
10-07-2017, 12:10 PM
#4980
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Originally Posted by moon
This last email makes it sound like they will honor seniority and displace to where your seniority holds for FO to CA, but everything prior sounded like only displace into a vacant captain slot. Which is it?
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