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Old 10-31-2017, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis View Post
This is good news. But Q4 2018? How many CRJs and E145s leave in the meantime? Sounds like there might be some shrinkage for a while?
We need to let the CRJs go! And shrinkage is good for those who want to flow. An overstaffed airline is one that could choose to not meter for a few months maybe.
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by moon View Post
We need to let the CRJs go! And shrinkage is good for those who want to flow. An overstaffed airline is one that could choose to not meter for a few months maybe.
Sounds like bad logic. What does shrinking do for people trying to get off reserve? Isn't reserve one of the biggest issues at Envoy? What kind of negotiating power do you have while you are over-staffed and shrinking?
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis View Post
Sounds like bad logic. What does shrinking do for people trying to get off reserve? Isn't reserve one of the biggest issues at Envoy? What kind of negotiating power do you have while you are over-staffed and shrinking?
There's enough movement that no one will be on rsv long (except CRJ captains).

Long story short, the more growth that occurs the more excuse the company will have to meter, the more extensions, jr mans, the more crap the company will bend in the contract to fix its self-induced staffing problems.

And look - all fleets have staffing problems. The last bid had 50+ displaced immediately to captain because we aren't staffed correctly. Do you really want to grow more and exacerbate those issues? A few months of fleet stagnation or temporary reduction (til the next round of 175s arrive) would at least provide a reprieve.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
We had our ID's before we went home for the first time.
I’m going off of what happened to the class last year. AA is in slow mode before Christmas. Hopefully they get them so that they can go observe if they want to.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
There's enough movement that no one will be on rsv long (except CRJ captains).

Long story short, the more growth that occurs the more excuse the company will have to meter, the more extensions, jr mans, the more crap the company will bend in the contract to fix its self-induced staffing problems.

And look - all fleets have staffing problems. The last bid had 50+ displaced immediately to captain because we aren't staffed correctly. Do you really want to grow more and exacerbate those issues? A few months of fleet stagnation or temporary reduction (til the next round of 175s arrive) would at least provide a reprieve.
Good points.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
There's enough movement that no one will be on rsv long (except CRJ captains).

Long story short, the more growth that occurs the more excuse the company will have to meter, the more extensions, jr mans, the more crap the company will bend in the contract to fix its self-induced staffing problems.

And look - all fleets have staffing problems. The last bid had 50+ displaced immediately to captain because we aren't staffed correctly. Do you really want to grow more and exacerbate those issues? A few months of fleet stagnation or temporary reduction (til the next round of 175s arrive) would at least provide a reprieve.
At what point does AA get scoped out on regionals across the board (contractor airlines + WO’s)? Are they even close to that number yet?

I’m not stirring the pot, I’m genuinely interested to see how the cards are currently stacked.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:30 AM
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At what point does AA get scoped out on regionals across the board (contractor airlines + WO’s)? Are they even close to that number yet?

I’m not stirring the pot, I’m genuinely interested to see how the cards are currently stacked.
I don't know. TBH I'm not sure how to get the numbers. I thought AAG was very close on large RJ scope, but apparently they can fit ten more.

I could probably figure out the number they're allowed to operate, but the problem is figuring out how many at the contract carriers fly for AAG vs the others.
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
I don't know. TBH I'm not sure how to get the numbers. I thought AAG was very close on large RJ scope, but apparently they can fit ten more.

I could probably figure out the number they're allowed to operate, but the problem is figuring out how many at the contract carriers fly for AAG vs the others.
Next rumor hot off the press is the 10 new 175’s are being sent to a new Envoy base in Pyongyang. Apparently it’s an emerging market. The upside is at least Crew scheduling’s mantra fits in well there.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206 View Post
At what point does AA get scoped out on regionals across the board (contractor airlines + WO’s)? Are they even close to that number yet?

I’m not stirring the pot, I’m genuinely interested to see how the cards are currently stacked.
AA scope is a little different than UA or DL. AA isn’t a hard number, but a percentage of the number of narrowbody hulls at mainline. And of the number that results from that, a certain percentage is allotted for “small” RJs (65 seats or less regardless of type) and for “large” (66 seats or more). They are reconfiguring all of the CR7s across Eagle to be 65 seats from what I understand, allowing for more large RJs to be added. Not sure the exact number of hulls of each type currently in service and the max allowed based on current mainline NB fleet size.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:49 AM
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140s are coming out of the desert ADS B retrofit, new interiors, new paint, wifi installed. We are not shrinking.

Figuring out how many hulls are in service for AAG across the board would be a large project.

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