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Old 02-08-2017, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog View Post
What are the D2 benefits?
Those a your travel benefits.
There are three levels, D1, D2, D3.
D1 is the highest priority and only you and your spouse/children are eligible. You only get a limited number per year, so it is wise to only use them for vacation or things where it is very important to get on the flight. Don't use it to commute, as the higher priority isn't exactly going to give you higher access to the jumpseat.
D2 would be your everyday commuting passes. I.e., traveling to and from work.
D3 are passed you can hand to your friends. You only have a limited amount per year as well.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fatman View Post
Those a your travel benefits.
There are three levels, D1, D2, D3.
D1 is the highest priority and only you and your spouse/children are eligible. You only get a limited number per year, so it is wise to only use them for vacation or things where it is very important to get on the flight. Don't use it to commute, as the higher priority isn't exactly going to give you higher access to the jumpseat.
D2 would be your everyday commuting passes. I.e., traveling to and from work.
D3 are passed you can hand to your friends. You only have a limited amount per year as well.
Hope this helps.
Ok. Thanks for explaining what these are and the different categories.

I'm still trying to understand the nuances of this whole process.

While in training, because we are not qualified yet, I guess we don't have access to the jump seat?

Are you saying not to use D1 to commute when a jump seat is available, which doesn't require a pass? This makes sense in that respect but seems to me nothing is more important than getting TO work or maybe I'm just not initiated to the system yet.

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Old 02-08-2017, 11:13 AM
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Don't use a D1 to commute. Commuting depends on a lot of variables. Who you're flying on, who has checked in, when you checked in, seniority, etc. A D1 does nothing to get you to the top of the list for a jumpseat. You'll have access to the jumpseat once you have your badge. I went home the weekend during indoc and had to jump on Expressjet going home. No issues trying to get on.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pntbllr233 View Post
Don't use a D1 to commute. Commuting depends on a lot of variables. Who you're flying on, who has checked in, when you checked in, seniority, etc. A D1 does nothing to get you to the top of the list for a jumpseat. You'll have access to the jumpseat once you have your badge. I went home the weekend during indoc and had to jump on Expressjet going home. No issues trying to get on.
The ONLY way I will be able to get where I will likely need to go is on the AA network, either mainline or one of the "other" commuters. Will this make a difference in getting to and from work?
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog View Post
The ONLY way I will be able to get where I will likely need to go is on the AA network, either mainline or one of the "other" commuters. Will this make a difference in getting to and from work?
No, it shouldn't. AFAIK, WOs' commuter policies don't have language for D1 vs. D2 passes. As long as you are listed on flights (using a D2), you should be free from any disciplinary action if you can't make it to work. Basically, know your commuter policy and follow it to the letter if you're concerned.

A D1 pass essentially bumps you to the top of the NonRev Stanbdy list for the cabin. Flight Deck Jumpseat priority is determined by check-in time along with The operator of the flight (EAG vs. AA).

D1 passes are considered vacation passes, and most people use them as such. Since you only get 6 D1s per year, use them wisely. D2 is your everyday, unlimited travel benefit. Hope this clears things up.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:41 AM
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Don't waste D1s commuting to work, you only get 6 of them per year.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:45 AM
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I hadn't heard that. Discouraging if true given that I'm starting training soon.
Don't listen to him, he's a tool/troll. Envoy has great training.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:06 PM
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Don't listen to him, he's a tool/troll. Envoy has great training.
On the CRJ side..he is right. Our ground instructor was not so good.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by criticalaoa View Post
On the CRJ side..he is right. Our ground instructor was not so good.
Send Mr. Hill or professional standards an Email explaining your experience. This organization prides it self in having some of the best training out there and the powers at be and the rest of us would like to keep it that way.

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Old 02-08-2017, 12:39 PM
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Send Mr. Hill or professional standards an Email explaining your experience. This organization prides it self in having some of the best training out there and the powers at be and the rest of us would like to keep it that way.

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Thanks for that. I will for sure. On the other hand the IPT instructors were great and they went out of their way to help us out.
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