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Old 02-16-2017 | 12:18 PM
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What are the max days you can be on duty including deadheading? Where can I find this in the contract?
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Old 02-16-2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup
What are the max days you can be on duty including deadheading? Where can I find this in the contract?
Max days on duty for the month is not in the contract. The only thing we get contractually is 8 days at home and even that is being abused.


If your question is how many days in a row can they keep you on duty then 9-10 days in a row if you get unlucky in the transition. This occurs only if you have a 30 hour overnight somewhere. I haven't ever heard the company keeping anyone out more 7 days and even that's rare.

I still am not sure if that answers your question. PM me with more details.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 02:06 PM
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Well of course it's inflated. So is Piedmont's, Envoy's, PSA's, and EDV's. No one is yet paying the $60K advertised pay as min guarantee, without some creative math.

I'd love to see the TS breakdown of monies that adds up to $75K.

Originally Posted by bigtime209
That's a bit inflated. They use per diem, benefits, and hotel rooms to get up to that number.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 02:34 PM
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Highly doubt it. This is a pretty weak pilot group starting with the union.
Troll post, but I'll take a bite.

Guess what?! WE ARE THE UNION! You have a voice. Say something and do something if you feel you are being wronged. I don't know about you but most people I fly with are first class individuals and we make up the union. I'm sure you knew all that, but I just wanted to remind you.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Max days on duty for the month is not in the contract. The only thing we get contractually is 8 days at home and even that is being abused.


If your question is how many days in a row can they keep you on duty then 9-10 days in a row if you get unlucky in the transition. This occurs only if you have a 30 hour overnight somewhere. I haven't ever heard the company keeping anyone out more 7 days and even that's rare.

I still am not sure if that answers your question. PM me with more details.
I know they attempted to make someone work 12 consecutive days--junior manning them through 3 off days.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 05:19 AM
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Anyone heard/know if Envoy is going to stop offering the 175 to new hires? They only offered two in the last class. I'm not particularly concerned with getting the 175 but its the only air frame they offer in DFW.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaffo
Anyone heard/know if Envoy is going to stop offering the 175 to new hires? They only offered two in the last class. I'm not particularly concerned with getting the 175 but its the only air frame they offer in DFW.
New hires will stop going into it by summer, if not sooner. For how long, who knows? But guys that have been going into the 145 in LGA or ORD have gotten DFW pretty quick, even still during training. As long as you don't get stuck in the CRJ you'll be able to get to DFW fairly quickly. And as more current DFW 145 begin to upgrade, you may even begin to see DFW offered to new hires in the 145.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaffo
Anyone heard/know if Envoy is going to stop offering the 175 to new hires? They only offered two in the last class. I'm not particularly concerned with getting the 175 but its the only air frame they offer in DFW.
Why not bid E145 in DFW? Or bid 145 in another base, and you'll probably hold DFW before you finish training.
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Old 02-17-2017 | 05:49 AM
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I would bid the 145 if they offered it at DFW. So how does a new hire bid a new base while on training?

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Old 02-17-2017 | 06:23 AM
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Has anyone done AQP recently with the new home study? I'm trying to find where to print the certificate saying I finished it but I can't find it anywhere.
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