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12-14-2017, 10:36 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
That's the thing. SkyWest doesn't "own" it. The terms of the next CPA is always subject to negotiation. It's ultimately up to what United wants.
But market share=power. I doubt skywest will come off that.
12-15-2017, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
That's the thing. SkyWest doesn't "own" it. The terms of the next CPA is always subject to negotiation. It's ultimately up to what United wants.
UA owns the 145. They tried to pull them to C5. I assume they would continue to do that if it worked that well.
What UA needs is someone to execute who has the pilots. I'd argue that INC/XJT is very good at executing. Maybe not a long the line of what pilots want but certainly along the lines of what UA wants. They just need to find a way to get pilots in (pay up, flow etc.)
Blackmailing SKYW on CPAs? Not sure that works either. SKYW owns the planes there.
12-15-2017, 06:18 AM
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Funny how everyone thinks they know whats going down... this has been in the works for awhile. Step one ASA gone. UA can’t own a regional that flys for another major ( don’t be fooled by the small AA flying, thats easily covered ) step 2,( happened awhile ago) SkyWest tell UA they don't plan on flying the 145’s longterm.. (money lossing cpa and looming pilot issues) UA has 2 options, try to ditch them to the leaser, and other regionals, or buy XJT and fly them tell they figure out a plan D...
12-15-2017, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Funny how everyone thinks they know whats going down... this has been in the works for awhile. Step one ASA gone. UA can’t own a regional that flys for another major ( don’t be fooled by the small AA flying, thats easily covered ) step 2,( happened awhile ago) SkyWest tell UA they don't plan on flying the 145’s longterm.. (money lossing cpa and looming pilot issues) UA has 2 options, try to ditch them to the leaser, and other regionals, or buy XJT and fly them tell they figure out a plan D...
12-15-2017, 08:34 AM
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Mechanics, company reach TA. Voting begins on 1/4/18.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300572034.html
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300572034.html
12-15-2017, 10:28 AM
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If there is a plan they have about 2 1/2 weeks to figure it out and announce it. At that point it will become moot as the next mass migration on the CRJ starts 1 January. If there are no pilots any plans for extra 145’s goes down the drain. And the plan has to be substantial, some kind of flow. I don’t think any are going to stick around for the CPP.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
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12-15-2017, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
If there is a plan they have about 2 1/2 weeks to figure it out and annnce it. At that point it will become moot as the next mass migration on the CRJ starts 1 January. If there are no pilots any plans for extra 145’s goes down the drain. And the plan has to be substantial, some kind of flow. I don’t think any are going to stick around for the CPP.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
12-15-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Where do you plan to go on Jan 1st?
12-15-2017, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
If there is a plan they have about 2 1/2 weeks to figure it out and announce it. At that point it will become moot as the next mass migration on the CRJ starts 1 January. If there are no pilots any plans for extra 145’s goes down the drain. And the plan has to be substantial, some kind of flow. I don’t think any are going to stick around for the CPP.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
Inc can talk a big game but I don’t think even they will be able to staff it though I could be wrong.
12-15-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Even if they sell them before Christmas. It will take months, maybe years for anything substantial to get into effect.. such as flow or more planes ect..
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