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Old 08-24-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoy88 View Post
The EQO is readily available public information. Anyone who wants to work at Xjt can easily access the contract and all the benefits. What the union has put out is a lot closer to the "full truth" than anything management, recruiters, or you want to have out there in a public forum for potential new hires to see.
Exactly this. DoSomePilotStuf isn't mad that the union and others on here are spreading miss-information. He's mad that people are spreading the truth.

New hires are more than welcome and very needed. DoSomePilotStuf can dupe people all day and see how many people actually stay on property for more than a year before bailing for greener pastures (other regionals).
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Old 08-24-2019, 08:56 PM
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CRJ is no longer part of our fleet. I’m not sure about the $5000 PIC you mentioned. I think maybe that’s for an eligible type rating. $22,000 is the minimum. 5 first week + 17 after IOE. If you have a type rating it’s more.
My mistake, yes eligible type rating was the correct wording I was told, my understanding is that is any aircraft above 5700kg that you hold a command endo on, I may be wrong of course.
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Old 08-25-2019, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf View Post
Whatever Joe. You’re the worst excuse for a MEC I’ve ever heard of. Heaven forbid a pilot actually enjoy their job. Anyone who does must be management.



I guess I do have the advantage of a hopeful long term outlook, because I have no intention of staying here. It must really suck to work at a regional and have given up hope of ever making it to a real airline. I can see why you would be such a miserable being.


For a new hire at his first regional, you sure seem to know a lot about unions.

Intentions are great, but they don’t do much for you when the economy takes a nose dive. IF you are a “new hire” then you should be hoping for QOL and pay increases that attract more new hires before the next slowdown hits. Forces outside of your control could keep you here for a long time.


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Old 08-25-2019, 10:53 AM
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For a new hire at his first regional, you sure seem to know a lot about unions.

Intentions are great, but they don’t do much for you when the economy takes a nose dive. IF you are a “new hire” then you should be hoping for QOL and pay increases that attract more new hires before the next slowdown hits. Forces outside of your control could keep you here for a long time.


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He's not a new hire. Full stop.
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For a new hire at his first regional, you sure seem to know a lot about unions.

Intentions are great, but they don’t do much for you when the economy takes a nose dive. IF you are a “new hire” then you should be hoping for QOL and pay increases that attract more new hires before the next slowdown hits. Forces outside of your control could keep you here for a long time.


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Not me. I’ve got plenty of other options. If the economy goes south I will for sure NOT be at XJT.

This is the equivalent of higher education. A means to an end. If that end becomes unreachable I’ll move on. No way I’m turning into one of these old farts sitting around acting like it’s my civic duty to complain as much as humanly possible. Ive done difficult work. Nothing about this job resembles it.

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Old 08-25-2019, 02:01 PM
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Data point:

If you're here for the TPIC, hope that seniority has a sea change if you don't want to be on reserve.

Remember that we often fly CAs as FOs on reserve, so no TPIC for that.

IAH Captains holding a phase I line have been here over 14 years.

We can project what may / should be, but that's the reality at the time of posting.

EWR is a little better at 9/2006

Phase II is a little better but I'm guessing close to 13 years to hold a CA line in IAH for example.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:12 PM
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These ones you mention are actually flying UNITED passengers; just not at mainline. What is the difference wether you experience terrifying at XJT or United?
Quasi-plausible deniability for United. It’s the only chance they have,
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by YANXJTPilot View Post
Data point:

If you're here for the TPIC, hope that seniority has a sea change if you don't want to be on reserve.

Remember that we often fly CAs as FOs on reserve, so no TPIC for that.

IAH Captains holding a phase I line have been here over 14 years.

We can project what may / should be, but that's the reality at the time of posting.

EWR is a little better at 9/2006

Phase II is a little better but I'm guessing close to 13 years to hold a CA line in IAH for example.
Uh oh. DoSomePilotStuff is going to be upset that you posted this on a public forum without giving the "full truth". You didn't even mention the good things the company does like pay for your hotel room while on a layover and give you a free bottle of water from the galley! 14 years to hold a line as a captain in IAH? Pffft.....they should just be grateful to have a job!
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by YANXJTPilot View Post
Data point:

If you're here for the TPIC, hope that seniority has a sea change if you don't want to be on reserve.

Remember that we often fly CAs as FOs on reserve, so no TPIC for that.

IAH Captains holding a phase I line have been here over 14 years.

We can project what may / should be, but that's the reality at the time of posting.

EWR is a little better at 9/2006

Phase II is a little better but I'm guessing close to 13 years to hold a CA line in IAH for example.
So even with all of this turnover that so deeply concerns you there will be no opportunity for TPIC here for the next 14 years or whatever. I see the logic. Makes sense.

My number one concern going forward is the likelihood that United would just as soon bury XJT than engage in negotiations with such an unprofessional bunch of sissies. You do realize that a group of 20+ year regional pilots offers absolutely no value to the parent company. You folks are all gonna negotiate yourselves right out of a job!

At this point it makes more sense to just open an IAH and ORD base for Commutair and just dissolve XJT. Oh wait, what are those Commutair rumors?!

Everyone seems so certain I’m management so I guess you heard it hear first! Union spreads “truth” about XJT, XJT can’t meet hiring goals, XJT dissolves! Congrats oh fearless Union leaders!!

If you really want to keep people from coming here, I’ve got a better narrative for you: “Don’t come to XJT, when the next recession hits we are sure to be the first to go because we have such a top heavy pilot group weighing us down! And they want a friggin raise!”

First rule of negotiation, know your own value. XJT Union’s perception of the value of its own pilot group is VASTLY overinflated.

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Old 08-25-2019, 03:32 PM
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Quasi-plausible deniability for United. It’s the only chance they have,
I believe the Colgan accident and the Chicago incident provide precedence. Plausible deniability gone.
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