63 cancels - 50 for crew
03-23-2019 | 09:34 AM
#181
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Expressjet wasn’t the lowest bidder and I promise you that. If we were so cheap, Skywest would have kept us and grown us.
Buying Expressjet was a strategic move by United. They didn’t buy us because we were the lowest bidder, had the greatest performance. They bought us because they need a regional of size, with experience running a large operation, the infrastructure, which commutair clearly doesn’t.
Skywest destroyed Expressjet and it’s going to take some time to fix it. In the mean time, yes we have a good contract, yes we have a good company(with a good history with employee relations), and yes we appear to have a stable future. Nothing incorrect about any of that.
03-23-2019 | 09:58 AM
#182
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Butthurt and ignorant. And to think you started your post with the question, “jealous of what?”.
Expressjet wasn’t the lowest bidder and I promise you that. If we were so cheap, Skywest would have kept us and grown us.
Buying Expressjet was a strategic move by United. They didn’t buy us because we were the lowest bidder, had the greatest performance. They bought us because they need a regional of size, with experience running a large operation, the infrastructure, which commutair clearly doesn’t.
Skywest destroyed Expressjet and it’s going to take some time to fix it. In the mean time, yes we have a good contract, yes we have a good company(with a good history with employee relations), and yes we appear to have a stable future. Nothing incorrect about any of that.
Expressjet wasn’t the lowest bidder and I promise you that. If we were so cheap, Skywest would have kept us and grown us.
Buying Expressjet was a strategic move by United. They didn’t buy us because we were the lowest bidder, had the greatest performance. They bought us because they need a regional of size, with experience running a large operation, the infrastructure, which commutair clearly doesn’t.
Skywest destroyed Expressjet and it’s going to take some time to fix it. In the mean time, yes we have a good contract, yes we have a good company(with a good history with employee relations), and yes we appear to have a stable future. Nothing incorrect about any of that.
In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!
Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.
03-23-2019 | 10:02 AM
#183
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I’ll give you there’s still an element of risk coming to Expressjet. But that risk doesn’t come without a significant reward—joining an airline at the very beginning of what is likely a major hiring wave.
That’s risk though... is something we’ve been transparent about here at the Expressjet forums. I’ve told people this multiple times over the last several months. But I’ve also told them with risks come rewards. That risk has also become smaller and smaller as more and more news comes out.
If you want easy, yes go to Republic. If you don’t mind taking a bit of a chance come to Expressjet instead.
Anyone who joined republic during their bankruptcy took a chance and it paid off handsomely. Today, after thousands have been hired.... there’s no big growth anymore.
That’s risk though... is something we’ve been transparent about here at the Expressjet forums. I’ve told people this multiple times over the last several months. But I’ve also told them with risks come rewards. That risk has also become smaller and smaller as more and more news comes out.
If you want easy, yes go to Republic. If you don’t mind taking a bit of a chance come to Expressjet instead.
Anyone who joined republic during their bankruptcy took a chance and it paid off handsomely. Today, after thousands have been hired.... there’s no big growth anymore.
03-23-2019 | 10:08 AM
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You appear to be lacking in elementary economic skills. UA has EIGHT regional feeds. Why is that? Do I really need to explain?
In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!
Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.
In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!
Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.
United has eight regionals because they’re running behind on consolidation, something the other regionals have already done. United will do the same, just give them time.
2. In your perfect world, giving mainline’s flying to the regional with best performance would result in one regional only. A monopoly, which would obviously be bad for the mainline partner.
Monopolies also tend to end up in a comfortable spot, which leads to a degradation of service quality eventually. Competition keeps companies on their toes.
Economic’s has an interesting concept called ceteris paribus. It’s one of those perfect worlds things. You should learn about it so you stop assuming it.
03-23-2019 | 10:15 AM
#186
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also, there’s nothing subpar about the “guys” at Expressjet. I’m sure in terms of pilot training and management skill, nobody here is looking up to republic.
Big difference now is that we have someone actively interested and investing in us, rather than letting us whittle away. The turn around will take some time, just like it did at republic.
Big difference now is that we have someone actively interested and investing in us, rather than letting us whittle away. The turn around will take some time, just like it did at republic.
03-23-2019 | 10:45 AM
#187
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I’m starting to think these are the pre-announced and coordinated thinning out of our block hours, like a previous poster alluded to. An email from flight ops dated March 10 says they would reduce block hours down to a more normal level by proactively cancelling flights on days with low reserve coverage. It’s just odd they’ve chosen to go this route, but it doesn’t sound like it’s the total disaster people are making... it has been planned this way.
03-23-2019 | 11:28 AM
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You appear to be lacking in elementary economic skills. UA has EIGHT regional feeds. Why is that? Do I really need to explain?
In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!
Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.
In a perfect world, mainline would give regionals with the best performance the flying. You know because cancelled flights angers customers which potentially choose to take their business elesewhere which translates to lost profits for the big wigs. Simple. Ask Delta how it’s done!
Not jealousy, but lots of frustration when the sub par guys that still can’t prove themselves get the flying contracts. UA will always be cheap and it’ll catch up.
Last edited by airlinepilot50; 03-23-2019 at 11:40 AM.
03-23-2019 | 11:51 AM
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XJT was the number one performer for years, but United rewarded flying to Republic and Mesa anyway. XJT is the lowest cost and it’s our turn to grow. United doesn’t care about performance as much as you would like to believe. UAL said we will be their E175 platform going forward, and recently purchased XJT a new E175 simulator to grow the fleet at a faster pace. Republic/Mesa are at risk of losing significant United flying over the next year or two. XJT hit bottom, in five or ten years we will hit the top. It’s cyclical.
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