Commuteair/xjt merge.
02-10-2020 | 07:13 AM
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Are you going to point me in the right direction where Boeing is telling Embraer what to do? Or did you make that up? Is okay if you did
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02-10-2020 | 07:16 AM
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the trigger I’d say their is a chance XJT could get them but hell I wouldn’t count on it. Scope is also
an issue too, they’d have to replace 19 70 seaters somehow
02-10-2020 | 08:06 AM
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What’s interesting when I talk to DAL pilots and my friends that are at DAL they are jealous of how many wide body jets at UA. UA has more top paying jobs then DAL, profit sharing isn’t a sure thing.
My last trip talking with a DAL crew about progression. I told them I had 16 years left at UA and I will retire as an equivalent as a 767 CA. The new hire FO (same age) will write as a NB CA.
it’s all perspective
My last trip talking with a DAL crew about progression. I told them I had 16 years left at UA and I will retire as an equivalent as a 767 CA. The new hire FO (same age) will write as a NB CA.
it’s all perspective
Again, perspective.
02-10-2020 | 08:07 AM
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Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.
I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.
I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.
02-10-2020 | 08:10 AM
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Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.
I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.
I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.
02-10-2020 | 08:32 AM
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From: It's a plane and it's a seat
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.
What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.
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02-10-2020 | 08:57 AM
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You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.
You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.
You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.
I’m gaining hours and experience to go to an LCC or even Envoy / Endeavor if EWR closes or shrinks small enough.
Endeavor may not have flow but they at least have great pay and contract. Envoy has a flow and their pay is better than ours. No EQO over there, just straight pay.
XJT is far from bad or evil but also not very competitive in the current market. The shrinking airline and very small new hire classes bear that out. Just think United could do more to make this airline attractive. Closing bases and fighting all three work groups isn’t helping anything.
Why do you still post here incessantly after leaving? Haven’t you moved on?
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02-10-2020 | 04:22 PM
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I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point.
02-10-2020 | 04:48 PM
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You can think yo nited sucks and still want to work there. Like someone told me I'll bandage my wounds with 100$ bills and tough it out lol. I can think AA is a mess and dont care for deltas culture but I'd still work there in a heartbeat.
02-11-2020 | 07:18 AM
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You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.
You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.
You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.
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