175's are done
02-25-2020 | 10:36 AM
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from what I heard from that union guy.. they are in DC getting things drawn up outside of letter 2 negotiations due to this news and closure of TSA. This was on Monday before we as a group knew of the changes. They know before hand
02-25-2020 | 10:40 AM
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The thing that that is interesting of watching how the rest of this all plays out. An airline closed due to staffing issues. Many other airlines are facing staffing issues. Who’s next and how will this continue going forward? I think we all will be flying bigger jets for higher pay. This current effort by the mainline partner to save flying on old jets is a terrible bandaid that will seem highly unattractive to possible new hires unless we get a flow or higher pay.. don’t think a median scale pay rate is going to get it done
02-25-2020 | 12:48 PM
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02-25-2020 | 02:10 PM
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I haven’t been keeping track much lately, but these are our historic totals. We are about where we were this time in 2019.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
02-25-2020 | 03:35 PM
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I haven’t been keeping track much lately, but these are our historic totals. We are about where we were this time in 2019.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Can’t imagine losing the 175 helps recruiting...
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02-25-2020 | 04:18 PM
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Right now we need operationally-focused people in charge and stop this nickel-and-dime mentality. Fix the outdated contract. I’ve never seen so much unrecoverable attrition of talent as I have over the last few years.
Forget the 175, we are pilots who move equipment A-B. Fleets change all the time.
TSA failed; could have been anyone. My $.02
Forget the 175, we are pilots who move equipment A-B. Fleets change all the time.
TSA failed; could have been anyone. My $.02
02-25-2020 | 04:49 PM
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I haven’t been keeping track much lately, but these are our historic totals. We are about where we were this time in 2019.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
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02-25-2020 | 05:34 PM
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The new 175s are what was helping offset the attrition while we wait for October for Section 6 and a dead Letter 2. Let’s see what the numbers look like in March since this announcement. I heard a few guys just walked out of training yesterday since they heard the news. They most certainly aren’t coming here for the QOL and pay.
02-25-2020 | 06:36 PM
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It’s much, much more complicated than that but of course you’re very aware of that fact. By no means is it an easy decision to make either way (stay or leave). For those to leave exclusively for that reason, I agree not a good look.
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