175's are done
02-25-2020, 10:36 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by PeakEGT
Exactly what I’m thinking. Obviously, some agreements have been made. I just fail they think to realize that something needs to be done now, not in October.
02-25-2020, 10:40 AM
#102
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The thing that that is interesting of watching how the rest of this all plays out. An airline closed due to staffing issues. Many other airlines are facing staffing issues. Who’s next and how will this continue going forward? I think we all will be flying bigger jets for higher pay. This current effort by the mainline partner to save flying on old jets is a terrible bandaid that will seem highly unattractive to possible new hires unless we get a flow or higher pay.. don’t think a median scale pay rate is going to get it done
02-25-2020, 12:48 PM
#103
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Honest question: how long can they afford to play these games? The pilot group was once 4500. It is now 1400 and dropping.
02-25-2020, 02:10 PM
#105
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
1455 and slowly growing. A few weeks ago, we were at 1435.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
02-25-2020, 03:35 PM
#106
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
I haven’t been keeping track much lately, but these are our historic totals. We are about where we were this time in 2019.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Can’t imagine losing the 175 helps recruiting...
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02-25-2020, 04:18 PM
#107
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Posts: 350
Right now we need operationally-focused people in charge and stop this nickel-and-dime mentality. Fix the outdated contract. I’ve never seen so much unrecoverable attrition of talent as I have over the last few years.
Forget the 175, we are pilots who move equipment A-B. Fleets change all the time.
TSA failed; could have been anyone. My $.02
Forget the 175, we are pilots who move equipment A-B. Fleets change all the time.
TSA failed; could have been anyone. My $.02
02-25-2020, 04:49 PM
#108
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Posts: 135
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
I haven’t been keeping track much lately, but these are our historic totals. We are about where we were this time in 2019.
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Xjt pilot count
6/1/18 - 1865
7/1 - 1824
8/1 - 1769
9/1 - 1687
10/1 - 1642
11/1 - 1597
12/1 - 1541
1/1/2019 - 1502
2/1/19 - 1470
3/1/19 - 1458
4/1/19 -1448
5/1/19 - 1432
6/1/19 - 1431
7/1/19 - 1442
8/1/19 - 1408
9/1/19 - 1394
10/1/19 - 1388
11/1/19 - 1378
12/1/19 - 1398
1/17/20 - 1427
2/24/20 - 1455
Last edited by UnitedExpress; 02-25-2020 at 05:09 PM.
02-25-2020, 05:34 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
The new 175s are what was helping offset the attrition while we wait for October for Section 6 and a dead Letter 2. Let’s see what the numbers look like in March since this announcement. I heard a few guys just walked out of training yesterday since they heard the news. They most certainly aren’t coming here for the QOL and pay.
02-25-2020, 06:36 PM
#110
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
That would be a great tell me about this story. "I walked out because I couldn't get the E175!!! Now if I'm hired here, I'll walk out if I don't get the 787."
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