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Old 02-29-2020, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt View Post
Odd, wonder why I received this?

“There has never been a better time to become a First Officer at SkyWest Airlines. If you are already a 121 pilot, you have access to our Industry Experience Credit, which allows you to transfer your 121 time and flight hours and use them towards captain upgrade time as well as increased starting pay. Additionally, SkyWest recently announced that it will be expanding its fleet with 50 new E-175 aircraft!

Upon application, you are eligible for an expedited interview process. We have immediate class dates available as soon as March.

If you are interested in what your future at SkyWest holds, you can go to our website at http://bit.ly/2wacSgW for more information and to apply.”
that's the problem with Skywest. They think that everybody that comes to them wants their future to be with Skywest. But most of us only see the Regionals as a stepping stone to somewhere else. Going to another airline puts you at the bottom a seniority list. So.... better make it a higher paying list (major or LCC) or one that moves fast. Skywest has the slowest movement of any regional thereby making a lateral move to there from another regional extra painful.
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
please post a source for that because there has never been a statement for 39 planes.

United ordered 20 +19 options. Those options can only be delivered if Skywest has their 19 CRJ7’s converted to CRJ5’s as those are the last CRJ7 aircraft in the UAX fleet. Mesa’s announcement for 20 175’s was them taking over the financing obligation from United for the 20 175’s United ordered.
you seem to be talking about scope and relationships between United and Skywest and United and Mesa etc. I'm not saying those airplanes can be flown under the current numbers for scope. I'm just saying that according to Embraer those orders became firm shortly after they were ordered as options. I found a report on Embraer website back in August that was dated sometime in July that showed all of the outstanding orders for e175. The report showed 0 options for United but it showed 39 firm orders owed to United.
I can no longer find this report but I did find a different report dated 31 Sep 2019 that showed 29 firm orders owed to United.
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Old 02-29-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime View Post
are you prior 121? Maybe they are prioritizing guys that can upgrade quickly.


I am, however not much time
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Old 02-29-2020, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by achfly View Post
that's the problem with Skywest. They think that everybody that comes to them wants their future to be with Skywest. But most of us only see the Regionals as a stepping stone to somewhere else. Going to another airline puts you at the bottom a seniority list. So.... better make it a higher paying list (major or LCC) or one that moves fast. Skywest has the slowest movement of any regional thereby making a lateral move to there from another regional extra painful.
SkyWest attrition has been 80~ a month... add steady attrition and growth and its a perfect storm for someone hired today. Let guys upgrade in under 1 year. When a restricted ATP has the hours. They will never see reserve as Captain...
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:10 PM
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SkyWest attrition has been 80~ a month... add steady attrition and growth and its a perfect storm for someone hired today. Let guys upgrade in under 1 year. When a restricted ATP has the hours. They will never see reserve as Captain...
I'm sure it seems that way to you.... But the other regionals move much faster. Skywest is attractive because it has so many base options.... But then you look at the hire date of the most junior captains there.... Wow. But even if you take the average hire date of the most junior captains at each of skywest bases that number is still quite bit more than the other regionals. When you're talking west coast bases..... Forget about it. TPIC is where it's at for going to a legacy. Some get in without it but I don't think I'm that cool. I hit 1k hours next month at Compass and if they close shop skywest will be last on my list. Nothing personal. I'm from St George and I know tons of folks that love skywest.... But that's the problem.... Too many lifers.

​​​Some 15 year guy at skywest was trying to recruit me and said 'oh I guess you guys drink a different coolaid at Compass.' I said, "no. You're missing the point. People at Compass are not drinking Compass coolaid.... They are drinking the coolaid for somewhere better..... FedEx, Delta, American, UPS, Southwest.... United...."
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by achfly View Post
I'm sure it seems that way to you.... But the other regionals move much faster. Skywest is attractive because it has so many base options.... But then you look at the hire date of the most junior captains there.... Wow. But even if you take the average hire date of the most junior captains at each of skywest bases that number is still quite bit more than the other regionals. When you're talking west coast bases..... Forget about it. TPIC is where it's at for going to a legacy. Some get in without it but I don't think I'm that cool. I hit 1k hours next month at Compass and if they close shop skywest will be last on my list. Nothing personal. I'm from St George and I know tons of folks that love skywest.... But that's the problem.... Too many lifers.

​​​Some 15 year guy at skywest was trying to recruit me and said 'oh I guess you guys drink a different coolaid at Compass.' I said, "no. You're missing the point. People at Compass are not drinking Compass coolaid.... They are drinking the coolaid for somewhere better..... FedEx, Delta, American, UPS, Southwest.... United...."

big difference between now and 5-10 years ago. Were seeing a lot more people from the upper midwest applying at SkyWest.. It’s a good deal for them. They get a midwest base they want and. The odd ball west coast guy, gets a west coast base out of training... trust me. Ive been at a few regionals.. OO isn't bad. Gone are the days of paying for my 1900 training at CoEX...(full disclosure is ended up going to Eagle instead. But had a class date at CoEX)
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by achfly View Post
I'm sure it seems that way to you.... But the other regionals move much faster. Skywest is attractive because it has so many base options.... But then you look at the hire date of the most junior captains there.... Wow. But even if you take the average hire date of the most junior captains at each of skywest bases that number is still quite bit more than the other regionals. When you're talking west coast bases..... Forget about it. TPIC is where it's at for going to a legacy. Some get in without it but I don't think I'm that cool. I hit 1k hours next month at Compass and if they close shop skywest will be last on my list. Nothing personal. I'm from St George and I know tons of folks that love skywest.... But that's the problem.... Too many lifers.

​​​Some 15 year guy at skywest was trying to recruit me and said 'oh I guess you guys drink a different coolaid at Compass.' I said, "no. You're missing the point. People at Compass are not drinking Compass coolaid.... They are drinking the coolaid for somewhere better..... FedEx, Delta, American, UPS, Southwest.... United...."
A pilot at 1,000 hours in March 2020 who is from the St. George area doesn't want to fly for SkyWest but will if he has to... You are gonna need all the luck in that interview now. Can't make this stuff up.
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:41 PM
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I get what you're saying.... I know skywest is a fine place to work. But I'm talking actual numbers. The other regionals have progressed at the same rate. Getting the base you want out of training is different than getting a line at the base you want after upgrading. Don't take my word for it though. Look at the date of hire for the most junior captain at each base at skywest. Then look at the date of hire for the most junior captain at each base for say Mesa or Compass or even Envoy.

Skywest may be a nice place to work but I'm looking for anyone trying to get hired at a major there much faster paths to 1k TPIC.... And each month that goes by without getting to your major of choice could make a HUGE difference in your career.
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma View Post
Historically, this was obvious. You went where the flying was whether in a B-1900 or EMB-120. This generation and subsequent, are different.

Personally, I learned more in that first couple years in a turboprop than in anything with VNAV and LPV. You can’t buy that kind of experience now, and I’m immensely grateful for it. YMMV.
what’s is this LNAV/VNAV you speak of? Crj200 driving asking
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Old 02-29-2020, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by achfly View Post
I'm sure it seems that way to you.... But the other regionals move much faster. Skywest is attractive because it has so many base options.... But then you look at the hire date of the most junior captains there.... Wow. But even if you take the average hire date of the most junior captains at each of skywest bases that number is still quite bit more than the other regionals. When you're talking west coast bases..... Forget about it. TPIC is where it's at for going to a legacy. Some get in without it but I don't think I'm that cool. I hit 1k hours next month at Compass and if they close shop skywest will be last on my list. Nothing personal. I'm from St George and I know tons of folks that love skywest.... But that's the problem.... Too many lifers.

​​​Some 15 year guy at skywest was trying to recruit me and said 'oh I guess you guys drink a different coolaid at Compass.' I said, "no. You're missing the point. People at Compass are not drinking Compass coolaid.... They are drinking the coolaid for somewhere better..... FedEx, Delta, American, UPS, Southwest.... United...."
Take a guess what the seniority is of the average CA line holder at XJT?
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