Flydafe

you just made me shiver a little thinking about the back flow of captains on the 175 that will have to hit the system again. I hope those planes come. I don’t want to be downgraded out of the left seat

Flydafe

i think someone mentioned this already but United has slowed down hiring due to the Max and the virus ordeal. Now looking at the article they are losing money. This move to rescue TSA’s flying is serious. I bet we’ll see some attractive gains in negotiations. My only caution to the group is to never ever sign a contract based on promises

Blackhawk

I think many of those -175 lifers may finally move on or retire.
You bring up valid concerns. But again, my advice is the same. Keep the long term objective in site and make any move based upon checking boxes to get there. Don’t get bogged down by things outside the lanes of your goal such as “this place is a dumpster fire”, or even worse, wanting to fly a shinier, newer jet. If it appears that by sticking around you will be on reserve for a while and not flying then sure, look at other options. But weigh that against starting over again somewhere else and going through a new hire pipeline.
The way you will know you made the right decisions is when you retire and get to look back at them.

UnitedExpress

Damage control? Try that sales pitch at a recruiting event with Republic, Mesa and SKYW present and they will laugh you out the door.

Blackhawk

Actually, you’re pretty funny. I’ve been gone from XJT for some years now. I’m not trying to get people to stay. I’m trying to help people move on. You might want to listen more.
I have no interest in anyone staying at XJT. I’ve encouraged some to go to different regionals and others to move on. But they need to do so for rational reasons, to advance their career or make an upward move. Not spur of the moment because they are ****ed at their company and the world or because they want to fly a -175 instead of a crummy -145.
Get back on your meds and calm down. You’ll have a heart attack before you hit retirement age with your bitterness and anger.

Cessna182TypeR

Projecting your emotions on others much?

Honestly, his posts were fairly positive up until the news release yesterday. He’s just calling things for what they are....

One of the main draws from management was “get an immediate class date and a line soon thereafter”. Many new hires knew we lagged behind in pay, career progression and newer fleet but the idea of getting multi engine turbine time and a schedule brought them in.

Clearly with all the training backlog and senior pilots moving into the 145 from the 175 that won’t happen as advertised. Simple as that.

I truly hope management has a plan that will offset this negative news. More old planes alone won’t do it.

ninerdriver

These two things appear to be contradictory...

Flydafe

United is hurting from the virus blockade in Asia. They are losing money but they still need their regional feed to be strong here in the United States. The virus situation hopefully is not permanent and they’ll get that flying back up. Trans states is permanent and they need the feed and bodies to staff these additional aircraft. They have to pay more. Xjt is offering around 40K to qualified captain new hires now. Let’s see what else happens for the existing pilot group

Blackhawk

Actually, I don’t have much emotion about it. I mean I feel for those affected. But some of you are acting like this is the first time something like this has happened at XJT/ASA. Look at many of the SkyWest airframes. They are AS and EV tail numbers. There is even the ND tail number. That one was tough to see. Guess where they came from? Bases closed. Flying was lost. It sucked. But it did force me and many others to stop being lazy. Some FOs I knew made lateral moves and it was the right decision. I thought long and hard about a DEC position elsewhere. Thankfully, I didn’t take it as I wouldn’t be where I am now if I had and might still be stuck at a regional.
Pilots at XJT have to take a rational, unemotional look at their options and figure which will probably advance their careers the fastest. For some a lateral move might be best. But don’t make that move based upon the type of jet you will fly. Again, no one but you cares about that. Look long term and make your decision based upon your long term goals.

UnitedExpress

Its going to be a hard sell for our new hires with just a single E175 type not to make a lateral move with the same upgrade times at competitors than to go back to training again for a new airplane.