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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Actually, I don’t have much emotion about it. I mean I feel for those affected. But some of you are acting like this is the first time something like this has happened at XJT/ASA. Look at many of the SkyWest airframes. They are AS and EV tail numbers. There is even the ND tail number. That one was tough to see. Guess where they came from? Bases closed. Flying was lost. It sucked. But it did force me and many others to stop being lazy. Some FOs I knew made lateral moves and it was the right decision. I thought long and hard about a DEC position elsewhere. Thankfully, I didn’t take it as I wouldn’t be where I am now if I had and might still be stuck at a regional.
Pilots at XJT have to take a rational, unemotional look at their options and figure which will probably advance their careers the fastest. For some a lateral move might be best. But don’t make that move based upon the type of jet you will fly. Again, no one but you cares about that. Look long term and make your decision based upon your long term goals.
what is DEC?
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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
what is DEC?
Decatur, IL
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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:28 AM
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Direct entry captain LOL
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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
Decatur, IL
This. I really wanted that Decatur, IL base.
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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Its going to be a hard sell for our new hires with just a single E175 type not to make a lateral move with the same upgrade times at competitors than to go back to training again for a new airplane.
I understand. But they need to take the unemotional long-view look at which will advance their career the fastest. Remember, TPIC, turbine time/MEL, additional types. In that order. Successful training on another type looks good. Also, try to get a feel for what some of those senior pilots are doing. Will this clean up the top of the list? I have no idea, but I saw some senior CRJ-700/900 pilots who moved on rather than taking the ERJ. Get a feel for that.
But yeah, balance that with being stuck on an airframe being wound down. If you can move to the -145 immediately... might be a good move to stay. If you're stuck in the right seat of a -175 until the keys to the last one are handed over to SkyWest and only flying every other month it might be time to move on.
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Old 02-26-2020 | 06:44 AM
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Thank you all for the meaning of DEC. XJT just announced at 40k bonus for dec new hires.
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Old 02-26-2020 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Its going to be a hard sell for our new hires with just a single E175 type not to make a lateral move with the same upgrade times at competitors than to go back to training again for a new airplane.


Some will definitely make that call. Hopefully they haven’t already spent the bonus
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Old 02-26-2020 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
Some will definitely make that call. Hopefully they haven’t already spent the bonus
For those TSA pilots affected by this it makes a lot of sense. DEN base on the same airplane. Don’t expect ORD, EWR or IAH.
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Old 02-26-2020 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
Some will definitely make that call. Hopefully they haven’t already spent the bonus
That'll be good for those of you who don't make that call. That will make that many fewer viable candidates for a legacy job.

"I didn't want to go through training again, so I left for somewhere that I'd have to go through training again."
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Old 02-26-2020 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
Its going to be a hard sell for our new hires with just a single E175 type not to make a lateral move with the same upgrade times at competitors than to go back to training again for a new airplane.
Getting another type is a good thing.

Also, good like finding another regional where you can get 19+ days off per month every month once you're a line holder.

Just adding a little balance. Those who are ignorant about how to bid and adjust their schedule will call me wrong, and the new hires who don't will probably want to leave.
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