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Old 07-23-2020 | 01:22 PM
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I just passed the 1 year mark and will absolutely be voting no on concessions.


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Old 07-23-2020 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Technically it was an off-airport landing

But as long as no one dies, legacies accept an occasional hull loss as part of the cost of economical feed.
Pretty sure it was just a standard business decision and not deaths that caused Colgan to go away.

Originally Posted by JediCheese
To be pedantic, they landed at the airport. They just didn't land on the runway...
The airport environment if you will.

I haven’t kept up, there been a final report on that?

Originally Posted by JuniorFO
The legacy XJT pilot group has always been the first to stand up and say NO to concessions, setting the tone for regional industry contract negotiations as a whole. See every contract negotiation and vote since Contract 2004.
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​​​BUT, things have changed and unfortunately I think the vast majority of the legacy group that voted no in the past has moved on. This leaves a bunch of non legacy XJT lifers and new hires that may tilt the ship, unfortunately, in the wrong direction. Good luck to all!
Thanks for laugh.

”jacburn” laid it out pretty good.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseAg03
I just passed the 1 year mark and will absolutely be voting no on concessions.


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Same here!
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:22 PM
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If the pilots don't get to share in the profits, then why should they share in the losses?

We are employees, not investors.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:27 PM
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I haven’t kept up, there been a final report on that?
No. I will tell you that the ILS and the airport itself played a major role in this accident.

John, do you want to explain to the pilots left at XJT where the cabin trainer and FTD #1 came from? Something about glass houses.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
No. I will tell you that the ILS and the airport itself played a major role in this accident.
Did the ILS lead them to terrain that was higher than the MSL DA?
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
If the pilots don't get to share in the profits, then why should they share in the losses?

We are employees, not investors.
Because they’d rather pay you the least amount possible as they know you’re replaceable.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
No. I will tell you that the ILS and the airport itself played a major role in this accident.

John, do you want to explain to the pilots left at XJT where the cabin trainer and FTD #1 came from? Something about glass houses.
The fact that they hire pilots like Cabo Killer and ones that have been forced to resign from XJT for other "issues" might have played a role in it too.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

Vote NO
Exactly. They need to put this place out of its misery. People got way to comfortable here never moving on, leading to the problem we’ll be having now in survival mode.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
No. I will tell you that the ILS and the airport itself played a major role in this accident.
Interesting.

Originally Posted by jacburn
John, do you want to explain to the pilots left at XJT where the cabin trainer and FTD #1 came from? Something about glass houses.
Also interesting.

Was more curious about the human (and technical as you seem to vaguely allude to) factors of the how/what/why.

And shouldn't you be no longer left at C5?
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