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Old 05-15-2020 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by furloughfuntime
The company has already gotten away with furloughing 112 pilots. They've found their loopholes and they are exploiting them
United ALPA put out an email basically saying that the CAREs act prevents the airline from changing the pay rates in a contract, but does not prevent them from changing work assignments. A displacement does not lower the rates, it just lowers your take home pay because your new position uses a different contractual rate than your previous position. Gotta love those technicalities.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 04:02 AM
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I think I can speak for a lot of the furloughed pilots when I say the survival of the company is critical to us at this point. If XJT goes under there is no chance in hell any of us could compete for whatever jobs are left out there.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
Total line flying positions 160 CA 955 FO effective July 1st.

If this flying level continues through October there will be hundreds of furloughs if we haven’t gone out of business by then.
Unfortunately, I think you might be right. At this point, I am kind a happy to be on the salary for a few months.
Nobody has it better at the moment in general.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 08:49 AM
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The other side to this is our current corporate infrastructure cannot be sustained on 40 airplanes. There is a training center, multiple departments, MX hangers and all this overhead. Versus an airline like Commutair which still may be operating in a garage somewhere.

Either there will be significant restructuring or I’m afraid total insolvency if they can’t get out of things like long term leases etc and this level continues.

Also, just say we did furlough 1,000 and go down to 40 airplanes. Everyone that would be left is top of the pay scale, 4 weeks vacation, highest percent 401k match etc. XJT is in a very bad spot unfortunately.

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Old 05-16-2020 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
The other side to this is our current corporate infrastructure cannot be sustained on 40 airplanes. There is a training center, multiple departments, MX hangers and all this overhead. Versus an airline like Commutair which still may be operating in a garage somewhere.

Either there will be significant restructuring or I’m afraid total insolvency if they can’t get out of things like long term leases etc and this level continues.

Also, just say we did furlough 1,000 and go down to 40 airplanes. Everyone that would be left is top of the pay scale, 4 weeks vacation, highest percent 401k match etc. XJT is in a very bad spot unfortunately.
In the town hall yesterday they said that both UAL and UAX will come out of this smaller. On the UAL side the 757 PW powered planes most likely won’t come back and that the rest of the 757-200’s and the 767-400’s are going to be parked for a while, but no retirement plans yet. Oddly, they didn’t mention anything about all of the 777’s that are in storage with no near term need. On the UAX side they said that the fleet will also be smaller, particularly the 50 seat single class aircraft, but that they don’t know how many they would need yet. Being that no official aircraft retirement or furlough plan has been released at UAL or XJT, it is too early to tell what they are going to do or who will lose the least amount during this mess. My guess is that those announcements will be made this summer, and none of us are going to like what is said.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 12:30 PM
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Yet envoy is pulling their 145s out of the desert? :scratches head: AA must know something UAL doesn’t.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer1985
Yet envoy is pulling their 145s out of the desert? :scratches head: AA must know something UAL doesn’t.
How may aircraft has XJT sent to IGM?? Seen a few airborne heading there the last few days..
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Old 05-16-2020 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer1985
Yet envoy is pulling their 145s out of the desert? :scratches head: AA must know something UAL doesn’t.
It is unusual. Unless AA is flooding the market and betting on a quicker recovery than the others so that they will gain a larger market share of passengers who couldn't get flights where they wanted to go with DL/UA during all this madness? No idea though, just spit ballin'
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Old 05-16-2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
How may aircraft has XJT sent to IGM?? Seen a few airborne heading there the last few days..
looks to be 30 per the flow board
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Old 05-16-2020 | 02:19 PM
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We may be getting set up to fail.
There are 4 SkyWest BOD members who are also on the ExpressJet Inc Board as well
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