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07-21-2020 | 07:49 AM

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All i heard is the problem is solved by pulling 6 seats out of the 76 seat Jets, and parking 50 seaters...( except prorate 50 seaters)....

07-21-2020 | 07:49 AM

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after 153 76/70 seaters the number is tied to to NB planes. That is why they will have to pull.

No - google United pilot agreement, read

1-C-1-a-(2) and report back

07-21-2020 | 07:54 AM

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No - google United pilot agreement, read

1-C-1-a-(2) and report back

Did you read 1-C-1-f and g?

07-21-2020 | 07:59 AM

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Did you read 1-C-1-f and g?

That is mostly in relation to a NEW small NB aircraft, ie E195 or A220

the limitation in 1-C-1-f is likely not gonna matter as 76 seat block hours can be 120% of NB block hours.

07-21-2020 | 12:28 PM

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That is mostly in relation to a NEW small NB aircraft, ie E195 or A220

the limitation in 1-C-1-f is likely not gonna matter as 76 seat block hours can be 120% of NB block hours.

You seem to know a lot more about scope than me, so I’ll take your word for it. I still don’t see all 50-seaters going away, question is who will fly them.

07-21-2020 | 12:30 PM

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You seem to know a lot more about scope than me, so I’ll take your word for it. I still don’t see all 50-seaters going away, question is who will fly them.

i see most “CPA” 50 seaters going away.... Prorate 50 seaters will grow..

07-21-2020 | 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by amcnd

i see most “CPA” 50 seaters going away.... Prorate 50 seaters will grow..

Could be.

Not under scope, but it expands the mainline brand, service fotprint, and some revenue. Kind of a win-win.

07-21-2020 | 12:54 PM

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Could be.

Not under scope, but it expands the mainline brand, service fotprint, and some revenue. Kind of a win-win.

all UAX flying falls under scope - EAS/pro-rate or not doesn’t matter. As long as it is marketed under UAX it is subject to scope.

07-21-2020 | 01:03 PM

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all UAX flying falls under scope - EAS/pro-rate or not doesn’t matter. As long as it is marketed under UAX it is subject to scope.

thats the point. Its not. Prorate they do there own marketing... the city's provide marketing capital, adds billboards ect...and “x” amount of funds to guarantee service...

07-21-2020 | 01:14 PM

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thats the point. Its not. Prorate they do there own marketing... the city's provide marketing capital, adds billboards ect...and “x” amount of funds to guarantee service...

no - that is not correct. All flying under the UAX banner is subject to scope.

And btw, the point of pro-rate flying is not the fare from SGU to SLC or from PAH to ORD which is indeed set by OO. What makes pro-rate flying viable is the connection fee that OO gets from UA for say PAH - ORD - SFO.

Yes, UA pays a commission for that incremental leg that they sell because of feed. Without that neither OO would do any pro-rate and neither would UA endorse any pro-rate.