Will ExpressJet survive this?
07-21-2020 | 01:25 PM
#921
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no - that is not correct. All flying under the UAX banner is subject to scope.
And btw, the point of pro-rate flying is not the fare from SGU to SLC or from PAH to ORD which is indeed set by OO. What makes pro-rate flying viable is the connection fee that OO gets from UA for say PAH - ORD - SFO.
Yes, UA pays a commission for that incremental leg that they sell because of feed. Without that neither OO would do any pro-rate and neither would UA endorse any pro-rate.
And btw, the point of pro-rate flying is not the fare from SGU to SLC or from PAH to ORD which is indeed set by OO. What makes pro-rate flying viable is the connection fee that OO gets from UA for say PAH - ORD - SFO.
Yes, UA pays a commission for that incremental leg that they sell because of feed. Without that neither OO would do any pro-rate and neither would UA endorse any pro-rate.
Well then, i guess someone better tell that to one of the UAX carriers that is about to start Over a handful of new prorate city’s... that they can’t do that... scope clause...
07-21-2020 | 01:54 PM
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Bottom line, they have some of headroom until the 12 month look back starts to capture COVID schedule reductions and it will get progressively worse as the look back includes more months with little mainline flying. This will not fall apart Oct 1 but will get progressively worse for UAX.
As a PSA and easy reference, here is the quick guide to the most relevant UAX scope limitations with contract reference:
All UAX flying is subject to scope - 1-C-1
Hull Count (given the current fleet structure)
Unlimited 37 seat turbo prop operations 1-C-1-a-(2)-(a)
50 seat aircraft up to 90% of single aisle aircraft in the mainline fleet 1-C-1-a-(2)-(b)
255 70/76 seat aircraft of which up to 153 can be 76 seat aircraft 1-C-1-a-(2)-(c)
Block Hour Limits 1-C-1-f-(1)
No limitation to 37 seat turbo prop block hours
Any rolling 12 months UAX block hours cannot exceed 120% of narrow body mainline block hours
Note that there is no differentiation between 50/70/76 seaters. The table shown in 1-C-1-f-(1) just accommodates a schedule in case of UA adding a NEW small narrowbody. That hasn’t happened yet so we are at 153 76 seaters and 120% of block.
07-21-2020 | 01:58 PM
#923
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your statement was correct in the Brasilia days (no scope for 37 seat turbo prop) but it is t correct any more.
07-21-2020 | 03:23 PM
#924
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07-21-2020 | 05:06 PM
#925
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haha better product!?! I’d rather be on anything, literally ANYTHING other than a SkyWest CRJ commanded by two of the industry’s leading dbags.
07-21-2020 | 05:41 PM
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This is why nobody likes Skywest. You show up when someone is on their death bed and insult them. Classy. Yes XJT is most likely dead. No need to gloat about it. You can leave now.
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07-21-2020 | 05:49 PM
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07-21-2020 | 06:54 PM
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Yeah, JR was long on swagger, short on results. He got his though. Once he finished with us, golden parachute and VP position with American. We did not fare well in that urology contest with Kellner. As I said before, it left us in a weakened state and we were easy prey for the likes of SKYW. As for the present management team, I'm not sure the situation itself allows much discretion. By corporate structure it seems we're completely beholden to UAL. The failed gamble taken by the Ream admin all those years ago is what set off the chain of events that led us being the runt that we are now. The troops always did enjoy the salty talk, though. I think he had a lot of people fooled.
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07-21-2020 | 07:02 PM
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Im at an ACMI carrier and last Fall this Skywest guy gave me his card and said “we’re hiring.”
Yeah, I want to leave a 6 figure job traveling the globe for a $40k rj job and being brainwashed that SKW is a “mainline” carrier.
Yeah, I want to leave a 6 figure job traveling the globe for a $40k rj job and being brainwashed that SKW is a “mainline” carrier.
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