What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
11-03-2015, 07:10 PM
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: 90-18
Posts: 6
"Point is, listen to what the reps say, educate yourself on the language, and make an educated decision, rather then saying it's just a turd."
The same reps in the crew lounge trying to sell this turd are mostly the same reps who tried to sell a failed T/A 2 years ago.
Does anybody really think after deliberately building up the captain staffing, (and ASA is overstaffed on capts. presently), that they would turn around and displace said capts.? Then they never should have built up the captain staffing if there wasn't addition; flying coming.
One additional year to get "stability"? LOL
The sky is falling innuendo coming from an MEC run by full timers who hardly ever fly the line and make 6 hours per day.
The same reps in the crew lounge trying to sell this turd are mostly the same reps who tried to sell a failed T/A 2 years ago.
Does anybody really think after deliberately building up the captain staffing, (and ASA is overstaffed on capts. presently), that they would turn around and displace said capts.? Then they never should have built up the captain staffing if there wasn't addition; flying coming.
One additional year to get "stability"? LOL
The sky is falling innuendo coming from an MEC run by full timers who hardly ever fly the line and make 6 hours per day.
11-03-2015, 07:34 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 265
Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I don't see it that way. Vacation low will still be an option. Lets say the window is set at 75-105, with a 85 TLV. I'll lay out the few scenarios here:
- You bid vacation low, so the window bottom is 65, with 75 TLV. It will still try to build you into that window. No change.
- If you cannot build a line up to those hours, then you can have it award you a hybrid line with a few reserve days.
- Or, you can have it award a straight reserve line.
First, "vacation low" bidders are prohibited from holding a hybrid line.
Second, the few remaining trips that may have gone to a junior vacation low bidder, will go to a more senior hybrid line-awardee.
You may say that this respects seniority, and it does in a way, but vacation low gives a pilot a few months of reprieve from a full year of reserve hell.
11-03-2015, 08:48 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I don't see it that way. Vacation low will still be an option. Lets say the window is set at 75-105, with a 85 TLV. I'll lay out the few scenarios here:
- You bid vacation low, so the window bottom is 65, with 75 TLV. It will still try to build you into that window. No change.
- If you cannot build a line up to those hours, then you can have it award you a hybrid line with a few reserve days.
- Or, you can have it award a straight reserve line.
11-04-2015, 01:36 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Reclined seat
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
There are a few problems with your scenarios:
First, "vacation low" bidders are prohibited from holding a hybrid line.
Second, the few remaining trips that may have gone to a junior vacation low bidder, will go to a more senior hybrid line-awardee.
You may say that this respects seniority, and it does in a way, but vacation low gives a pilot a few months of reprieve from a full year of reserve hell.
First, "vacation low" bidders are prohibited from holding a hybrid line.
Second, the few remaining trips that may have gone to a junior vacation low bidder, will go to a more senior hybrid line-awardee.
You may say that this respects seniority, and it does in a way, but vacation low gives a pilot a few months of reprieve from a full year of reserve hell.
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
The wording is convoluted. It looks like you cannot get paid min guarantee if you set your window below 75 and PBS awards a line valued at less than 75. The hybrid line is going to take QOL away from some people on the line between reserve and lineholder.
11-04-2015, 02:56 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I missed the section on where it says you cannot big vacation low with a hybrid line. That was my fault as I've been on a trip the last 3 days since the e-mail came out, and only had a chance to review it on my phone and not a computer. Never had a chance on a computer with about 10 schedule changes.
What section are you looking at? Is it the add pay section?
What section are you looking at? Is it the add pay section?
As for the QOL, I see the company adding reserve days to anyone whose schedule is awarded below 75 hours. In other words, if your schedule would have awarded you 68 hours, then today you get paid for 75 with extra time off. In the future you will get awarded 68 plus 2 days of reserve.
11-04-2015, 03:25 AM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 77
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
The wording is convoluted. It looks like you cannot get paid min guarantee if you set your window below 75 and PBS awards a line valued at less than 75. The hybrid line is going to take QOL away from some people on the line between reserve and lineholder.
11-04-2015, 04:33 AM
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
I'm glad to hear you guys are finally getting add pay. For some reason, that was a stumbling block. Sounds like people changed their mind.
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11-04-2015, 05:32 AM
Stuck Mic
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,059
Don't fall for any change to vacation low. That is by far the best tool when being able to get time off. Any change to it is purely to benefit the company and make you work more for the same or pay.
11-04-2015, 06:29 AM
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: PC-12 Captain
Posts: 22
link to LOA 14
Can someone post a link to LOA 14? I can't find it and if it was attached to an email I must have discarded it accidently.
11-04-2015, 09:54 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: Reclined seat
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Don't fall for any change to vacation low. That is by far the best tool when being able to get time off. Any change to it is purely to benefit the company and make you work more for the same or pay.
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
As far as pay, yes, I think it was the add pay section. Don't have it in front of me.
As for the QOL, I see the company adding reserve days to anyone whose schedule is awarded below 75 hours. In other words, if your schedule would have awarded you 68 hours, then today you get paid for 75 with extra time off. In the future you will get awarded 68 plus 2 days of reserve.
As for the QOL, I see the company adding reserve days to anyone whose schedule is awarded below 75 hours. In other words, if your schedule would have awarded you 68 hours, then today you get paid for 75 with extra time off. In the future you will get awarded 68 plus 2 days of reserve.
Originally Posted by ils8l
Can someone post a link to LOA 14? I can't find it and if it was attached to an email I must have discarded it accidently.
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