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Old 11-12-2012 | 01:51 PM
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So what kind of compromise is your side making? What compromise are YOU making? Are they equal compromises on both sides?

Why does it seem your sense of loyalty to the ASA group is so low? Reading your posts and they always seem to be in defense of the XJT group. I'm not defending Tony, this is just an observation that your tone is noticeably anti ASA.

note: I'm all about ignoring the divisive folks among both our groups, and I'm not attempting to divide further.
Old 11-12-2012 | 03:11 PM
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Actually, the majority of guys I fly with don't want to have anything to do with the XJT pilot group....and that number continues to grow while they continue to cry....
If that's the case, you should all have a Come-to-Jesus meeting and remove your collective heads from the brown starfish between your cheeks. No combined group = no new CBA ever again= management wins and we lose big time. It also means no new flying opportunities because our customers will be terrified of our toxic labor relations. Don't make it worse than it already is.

Yes its tough to compromise but you also have to spend some time in the XJT pilots' shoes. Here is a news flash: it wasn't their CBA that was making XJT lose money. Their CASM prior to the merge was significantly less than ASA's, despite the better contract. Go read the 10K reports for both companies if you don't believe me.

Have some sympathy for these guys and try to understand where they are coming from rather than turn your nose up and decide we are better off apart. The exact opposite is true.
Old 11-12-2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by unit monster
Why does it seem your sense of loyalty to the ASA group is so low? Reading your posts and they always seem to be in defense of the XJT group. I'm not defending Tony, this is just an observation that your tone is noticeably anti ASA.

note: I'm all about ignoring the divisive folks among both our groups, and I'm not attempting to divide further.
Very good question. And thanks for noticing. I'm sure my stand on everything goes unnoticed most of the time.

I don't really have a sense of loyalty to one group over the other. But I do find the need to point things out to a certain group of people that think the world revolves around them. Certain people that think the solution to the problem is to point fingers and insult the person they feel is the reason for the problem in their eyes.

I try to see things from all perspectives. Of course I can't agree with them all but I guess I just feel the need to speak up when I see people acting a way that I feel has a negative impact on merger progress.
Old 11-13-2012 | 05:29 AM
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There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
Old 11-13-2012 | 06:28 AM
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There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
Same thing just happened with our MEC Chairman. I think you will be seeing a more unified front against the company going forward.
Old 11-13-2012 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
Well you really don't know the truth do you. One spends more time in the CP office and the other said he has always supported Flica the current ASA PBS system. Ahhh nope he has not.
Old 11-13-2012 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
The MEC is not just one person.
Old 11-13-2012 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
Well, that would explain the pop up recently of the CRJ thugs on the pipe.
Old 11-13-2012 | 06:59 AM
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I like how the FO reps will soon be Captains.....yay.....
Old 11-13-2012 | 07:05 AM
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I like how the FO reps will soon be Captains.....yay.....
People should have looked at that before voting...
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