What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
11-13-2012 | 07:14 AM
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Agreed, I wish people would have noticed that too. Only like 327/1100ish voted....people just don't care.
11-13-2012 | 09:17 AM
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I wasn't eligible to vote, but yeah, no one cares. Everyone has their own agenda and for a large percentage of us, whatever the union does do, rarely affects us. Aside from finally getting the '07 contract,the union has done nothing for me. I pay my almost 2% and when I have a problem? I go to management to get things done. The one or two times I have contacted our union, they've been pretty much useless and even condescending. I keep my head above water, stay out of trouble as much as I can, do my job and go home. Whoever is in the MEC could matter less to me, they're gonna do whatever they want to do anyway.
11-13-2012 | 06:21 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
If that's the case, you should all have a Come-to-Jesus meeting and remove your collective heads from the brown starfish between your cheeks. No combined group = no new CBA ever again= management wins and we lose big time. It also means no new flying opportunities because our customers will be terrified of our toxic labor relations. Don't make it worse than it already is.
Yes its tough to compromise but you also have to spend some time in the XJT pilots' shoes. Here is a news flash: it wasn't their CBA that was making XJT lose money. Their CASM prior to the merge was significantly less than ASA's, despite the better contract. Go read the 10K reports for both companies if you don't believe me.
Have some sympathy for these guys and try to understand where they are coming from rather than turn your nose up and decide we are better off apart. The exact opposite is true.
Yes its tough to compromise but you also have to spend some time in the XJT pilots' shoes. Here is a news flash: it wasn't their CBA that was making XJT lose money. Their CASM prior to the merge was significantly less than ASA's, despite the better contract. Go read the 10K reports for both companies if you don't believe me.
Have some sympathy for these guys and try to understand where they are coming from rather than turn your nose up and decide we are better off apart. The exact opposite is true.
If you really want a JCBA, then you need to pressure the XJT folks who think they can get more to fly a 50 seater than the United pilots just got to fly a 90 seater....There will never be a JCBA based on what they are asking for.
11-13-2012 | 06:26 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Very good question. And thanks for noticing. I'm sure my stand on everything goes unnoticed most of the time.
I don't really have a sense of loyalty to one group over the other. But I do find the need to point things out to a certain group of people that think the world revolves around them. Certain people that think the solution to the problem is to point fingers and insult the person they feel is the reason for the problem in their eyes.
I try to see things from all perspectives. Of course I can't agree with them all but I guess I just feel the need to speak up when I see people acting a way that I feel has a negative impact on merger progress.
I don't really have a sense of loyalty to one group over the other. But I do find the need to point things out to a certain group of people that think the world revolves around them. Certain people that think the solution to the problem is to point fingers and insult the person they feel is the reason for the problem in their eyes.
I try to see things from all perspectives. Of course I can't agree with them all but I guess I just feel the need to speak up when I see people acting a way that I feel has a negative impact on merger progress.
11-13-2012 | 06:28 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
There is change in the air at Asa side concerning elected officers to Alpa. We just removed 2 people from their position and elected 2 really aggressive people who actually believe in transparency. Word on the street is our current MEC time is coming to an end. Looking forward for him to return to the line.
11-13-2012 | 06:31 PM
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11-13-2012 | 06:31 PM
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Sorry to interrupt the contract talk. November 19 class has 13 confirmed. Dec 3 has 24
11-13-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Well Joe, as much time as you spend on the pipe and you play dumb over here? We all know it's the L-ASA mec slowing things down because they are reluctant to have any change. This guy comes on the crackpipe and instigates things all the time. Best thing Y'all on here could do would be to add Joemerchant to your ignor list like I'm about to.
11-13-2012 | 06:38 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Why did the XJT MEC turn down the companies offer to transfer pilots and take voluntary furloughs? Oops, here comes more Article 8 charges by the children running the XJT MEC...
11-13-2012 | 06:40 PM
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