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Old 02-09-2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by todhog2
Hey Spud, I just hired on at ASA and I'm almost 50 years old. If I stay I'll be nearly 60 before I upgrade and ASA may not even be around by then. It's all relative.
well at least you knew that going into it. A lot of the FO's that have been here some time got hired when upgrade was 2-3 years or so from DOH so for us it is a huge letdown.
Old 02-09-2013 | 04:04 PM
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well at least you knew that going into it. A lot of the FO's that have been here some time got hired when upgrade was 2-3 years or so from DOH so for us it is a huge letdown.
huuuuuuge let down. Nothing like wasting your youth making 40k a year at a time when making lots of $$$ is one of the most important (relatively speaking) priorities in your financial life.
Old 02-09-2013 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
well at least you knew that going into it. A lot of the FO's that have been here some time got hired when upgrade was 2-3 years or so from DOH so for us it is a huge letdown.
Actually, I didn't know that. They told me at the interview it would be 3-4 years with all the mainline hiring and expansion. I've been in this business too long to believe that. Hopefully I won't be around long enough to find out.
Old 02-10-2013 | 04:20 AM
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I wish I made 40k in one year. I'd feel rich.
Old 02-10-2013 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
The last 5 years at Colgan would have got you a Saab 340 type, Dash 8 type, around 3,000 hours of precious 121 PIC and 4 years of captain pay. Compare that to someone who spent the last 5 years at any other regional and Colgan doesn't look so bad now does it?
Snap.

Upgrade time does matter to those who want to go to a place that requires turbine PIC. Wanna know what the projected upgrade for someone with my DOH is at Xjet? 10 years! Changes your perspective a little bit when you look at it like that. So tell me, people: If this place goes t*ts up in a year or shows no hope of movement, and you have very good connections at the place you want to end up, and all that's holding you back is 1000TPIC, you wouldn't entertain the thought of a lateral move to a place where you could get that required time in less than 10 years?! LOL
Old 02-10-2013 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Snap.

Upgrade time does matter to those who want to go to a place that requires turbine PIC. Wanna know what the projected upgrade for someone with my DOH is at Xjet? 10 years! Changes your perspective a little bit when you look at it like that. So tell me, people: If this place goes t*ts up in a year or shows no hope of movement, and you have very good connections at the place you want to end up, and all that's holding you back is 1000TPIC, you wouldn't entertain the thought of a lateral move to a place where you could get that required time in less than 10 years?! LOL
I agree with you. My only gripe with a lateral move is you could end up in the same situation, if not worse with another regional. Plus, things could always turn around. This industry is so hard to predict and is full of "shoulda, coulda, wouldas."
Old 02-10-2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by todhog2
Actually, I didn't know that. They told me at the interview it would be 3-4 years with all the mainline hiring and expansion. I've been in this business too long to believe that. Hopefully I won't be around long enough to find out.
So you DID know that. Spud.
Old 02-10-2013 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
So you DID know that. Spud.
Why was I mentioned there? When I was hired, upgrade was 2.5 years at ASA. Didn't really expect that but never though I'd be in the right seat this long...
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spudskier that's not a reference to you. Read the earlier post by todhog2.
Old 02-10-2013 | 09:09 AM
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Upgrading isn't just all about just earning PIC time. At a regional airline in the right seat you aren't even looked upon as a real pilot. You are just an annoying apprentice to most trying to earn his keep. And most regional CBA's reflect that. Pay scales aren't designed for one to live off of. After 6+ years with a company and most likely 10+ into your career you need to start being able to pay your investment back and take a break from pre flights, post flights and those damn hotel key card responsibilities that are apparently in some company policy booklet that I have yet to see. There comes a time when you have paid your dues and you are ready for the next challenge.

This is a generic statement but many could agree with this. There's still that entitlement generation that always feels as if they DESERVE something without doing the work. But 8-10 years in the right seat at a regional airline is way too long. I don't care if the guys at Comair were doing it. It's still not right.
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