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Old 08-26-2014 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
And let's not forget these industry outliers, which are the true reason XE is losing money
The true reason XE is losing money is due to unprofitable CPA's that were driven directly by SkyWest Inc. during their first buyout attempt. This is readily admitted by top SkyWest executives on their Q2 earnings call. Perhaps you should listen to that.

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Industry leading 50 seat RJ rates
Company paid defined contribution retirement plans
90% company paid PPO health insurance
Company paid On the Job Injury (OJI) bank
Line Bidding with vacation touch/drop
You forgot LTD.

That out of the way, isn't the list above one that any union negotiator would strive for? Especially when the company readily acknowledges that revenue, not costs, are the problem? Who exactly are you negotiating for - labor or management?

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This is not a union vs union pi$$ing contest. This is a very real merger failure because of diametrically opposed cultures clashing in a vacuum of leadership.

So yes, it's time for the ACQUIRED (not hired) carrier to get on board or get parked. The SKW BOD has clearly run out of patience. They are not going to let the angry money losing side sink the profitable and willing side.
Please point to factual information detailing that the SKW BOD has "clearly run out of patience." Don't waste our time with #'s of A/C being parked; that was known info before the failed JCBA came out. Perhaps you should take a look at the static fleet plan while you are listening to the SKW Q2 earnings call you clearly missed. You'll notice CRJ's get parked at the same relative rate as ERJ's.

Just because you want something to happen and spew it all across the internet doesn't make it reality. The fact that you clearly hope a fellow union carrier would be shut down and fellow union brothers and sisters would lose their jobs speaks volumes to your character.
Old 08-26-2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
What the rest of us know as fact, is that you L-XJT guys are little *****es. You want to mope around and blame everyone else but yourselves for poor performance, then and now. All you do is gimme, gimme, gimme. I want, I want, I want. Fact of the matter is, L-ASA is ready to play ball and you aren't. You and your pals are going to be the ones left on the outside looking in.
Calling guys *****es while hiding behind a fake screen name. Oh the irony.
Old 08-26-2014 | 09:53 AM
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Well I've attended the meetings and talked to people in the know and the stuff on here is....well crap. LXJT is getting PBS and some of the outliers will be gone with the new contract. That's a fact. The hold up is the SmartPref/Flightline battle. I'm not going to point fingers because I think it will get worked out.

As I said earlier, I've only ever encountered one ASA guy I didn't care for. The stuff I see here is a few extremists arguing. The vast majority of us want a deal done and that will happen. I will say though that when ASA was looking at potential furloughs a year or so ago nobody over here seemed happy about it...you guys on here wanting LXJT to fade a away (along with over 1,000 pilots hired post merger) are reflecting poorly on your pilot group.

If I were to guess, the ASA side wants Flightline locked in now because if it isn't then it could eventually come down to a pilot group vote...which would probably swing in LXJTs favor. Since we are losing airplanes, there is perceived leverage.

We should all remember that we will eventually be flying together and act accordingly.
Old 08-26-2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
I am more ready for them to park you... in the unemployment line.
Another shining star of unionism. I feel bad for people like you who wish harm on others. Tough to imagine how much your life must suck to get to that point.
Old 08-26-2014 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
The true reason XE is losing money is due to unprofitable CPA's that were driven directly by SkyWest Inc. during their first buyout attempt. This is readily admitted by top SkyWest executives on their Q2 earnings call. Perhaps you should listen to that.



You forgot LTD.

That out of the way, isn't the list above one that any union negotiator would strive for? Especially when the company readily acknowledges that revenue, not costs, are the problem? Who exactly are you negotiating for - labor or management?



Please point to factual information detailing that the SKW BOD has "clearly run out of patience." Don't waste our time with #'s of A/C being parked; that was known info before the failed JCBA came out. Perhaps you should take a look at the static fleet plan while you are listening to the SKW Q2 earnings call you clearly missed. You'll notice CRJ's get parked at the same relative rate as ERJ's.

Just because you want something to happen and spew it all across the internet doesn't make it reality. The fact that you clearly hope a fellow union carrier would be shut down and fellow union brothers and sisters would lose their jobs speaks volumes to your character.
Not bad for your first post. Now go google the term flamebait and try not to take everything you read on the forums so seriously.
Old 08-26-2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
Another shining star of unionism. I feel bad for people like you who wish harm on others. Tough to imagine how much your life must suck to get to that point.
I'm pretty sure air101 isn't in a union. And calling people scabs while hiding behind a screen name? Oh the irony.
Old 08-26-2014 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Not bad for your first post. Now go google the term flamebait and try not to take everything you read on the forums so seriously.
A predictable and typical display of your inability to debate. But thanks for admitting you have no facts to back up the crap you spew, not that anybody reading it all over the internet didn't already know that.
Old 08-26-2014 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
A predictable and typical display of your inability to debate. But thanks for admitting you have no facts to back up the crap you spew, not that anybody reading it all over the internet didn't already know that.
Another internet tough guy hiding behind a screen name. Yawn. You know who I am, please feel free to share your thoughts in person next time you see me. (But I know you won't).
Old 08-26-2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
I'm pretty sure air101 isn't in a union. And calling people scabs while hiding behind a screen name? Oh the irony.
Who called anyone a scab? I was referring to his wish for someone else to lost their job. The unionists I know fight to protect jobs. And union or not, you have to be in a pretty bad spot in life to wish harm on others.
Old 08-26-2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Another internet tough guy hiding behind a screen name. Yawn. You know who I am, please feel free to share your thoughts in person next time you see me. (But I know you won't).
You want to have an argument face to face with somebody? The whole point of the threads it allow someone to vent and gain another’s perspective without compromising their professional integrity. Do you think your Qol would go up if these conversations took place in the cockpit on every 4 day, or do you just think you’re a man and would put everyone else in their place?
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