Originally Posted by afterburn81

Just curious, all this attrition. Where is everyone going and why? Seems like the only places hiring are JB and USAir. So you go back to an RJ and be an FO again for many years getting paid less than XJT. And most have to commute. I can't see the appeal.

Originally Posted by spudskier

I have a hard time believing that there will be no classes for the next two months. You're usually spot on with your info but I'm having a hard time with this one, especially since I've moved almost a class-worth of people on the master seniority list in the last two months.

"Irons in the fire" I'll believe. Hopefully that's always the case. I know there's RFPs for AE, UAX, and USAir out there. I do doubt that we're competitive enough to get any of them. GoJets, Compass, Mesa, etc... are so much cheaper and as we all know, money rules... not results.

Hiring should pick up soon with people leaving left and right. The attrition might account for the 10ish planes leaving the DCI system, but it's gonna do nothing for the new rest rules next winter. I would guess no less than 50% of the L-ASA group has resumes out somewhere if not everywhere. This summer is going to be a gigantic Cluster F*@$

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Originally Posted by afterburn81

Just curious, all this attrition. Where is everyone going and why? Seems like the only places hiring are JB and USAir. So you go back to an RJ and be an FO again for many years getting paid less than XJT. And most have to commute. I can't see the appeal.

I know United may hire one day. Not currently and they have a bunch of furloughs to recall. Same with American. And forget about Delta. I have talked to a couple of people that went to JB blue no more than the usual movement. Where else is really worth jumping ship to only sit at the bottom of another huge shaky seniority list?

Is this just speculation of movement? My number really hasn't changed much at all. Anyone in ATL on the 7/9 can see there are more pairings. But the block hours are actually less than last year. Notice they have no 4 days during the week. All 4 days touch weekends. And only about a hundred 3 days or so. It's all day lines and 2 days. I too was wondering why the number of pairings went up so much. And the ATL 200 is dwindling too. Yes there are some rest rule changes coming up. That proposes a challenge. That is the only staffing challenge I see.

With that being said, I'm sure there is less of a staffing problem than everyone thinks. They got it figured out. So long as we all sit here and let them do what they want, they will always have it figured out.

Thank you sir may I have another.

Originally Posted by somertime32

I just checked on flica and there are around 250 4 days that start on Mondays and Tuesdays.

Originally Posted by atrdriver

I suppose if you define Mondays and Fridays as "touching a weekend" then it's impossible for any four-day trip to not touch a weekend.

But yea it looked like there were quite a few during-the-week four-days to me too.

Originally Posted by afterburn81

Is this just speculation of movement? My number really hasn't changed much at all. Anyone in ATL on the 7/9 can see there are more pairings. But the block hours are actually less than last year. Notice they have no 4 days during the week. All 4 days touch weekends. And only about a hundred 3 days or so. It's all day lines and 2 days. I too was wondering why the number of pairings went up so much. And the ATL 200 is dwindling too. Yes there are some rest rule changes coming up. That proposes a challenge. That is the only staffing challenge I see.

Originally Posted by Trip7

The ATL 700/900 pairings went up because 2 more PQ tail 900s were delivered in Febuary and have hit the line. 5 of the 12 are on property, all 12 on property by May. Projected lines for March up from 160 to 200. Block hours down on the 700/900 from last year? I doubt that since we have more 700/900s then last year.

Originally Posted by pa28dakota

PQ! We called those Poor Quality! Buncha LR (Low Reliability) tails coming your way too (and maybe mine too if XJT gets going on hiring)...getting antsy over here at the bottom of 9Es list.

Originally Posted by Trip7

The ATL 700/900 pairings went up because 2 more PQ tail 900s were delivered in Febuary and have hit the line. 5 of the 12 are on property, all 12 on property by May. Projected lines for March up from 160 to 200. Block hours down on the 700/900 from last year? I doubt that since we have more 700/900s then last year.