What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
08-06-2014, 09:22 AM
#6811
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Originally Posted by Bravo3
That's a lot of planes to be parked in such a short time frame. That amount of capacity loss goes where? Can anybody help me out here and answer this question, plz.
Embraer can't build them that fast.
Embraer can't build them that fast.
08-06-2014, 09:26 AM
#6812
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Originally Posted by Bravo3
That's a lot of planes to be parked in such a short time frame. That amount of capacity loss goes where? Can anybody help me out here and answer this question, plz.
Embraer can't build them that fast.
Embraer can't build them that fast.
08-06-2014, 09:27 AM
#6813
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Ask yourself, how can you fly more aircraft for a major that is already at the limit of its scope...and then you may find your answer.
08-06-2014, 09:36 AM
#6814
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
Perhaps, however the more realistic and probable scenario is that they park E145s as planned, furlough L-XJT pilots and offer interviews to said pilots to help staff the E 175. This accelerates the wind down of XJT, and provides competent and trained pilots to SKYW at first year pay, not to mention it reduces ALPAs presence.
Putting E175s on the L-ASA side only further inflames tensions between both sides and in the end will cost SKYW more money. I hope that neither option happens, but one must be realistic after all this time.
Putting E175s on the L-ASA side only further inflames tensions between both sides and in the end will cost SKYW more money. I hope that neither option happens, but one must be realistic after all this time.
08-06-2014, 09:43 AM
#6815
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Originally Posted by johnso29
They could codeshare, if the respective pilot groups union agrees to it. I'm sure that would go very well for Skywest.
How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for United without a codeshare agreement?
How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for Delta without a codeshare agreement?
How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for American without a codeshare agreement?
08-06-2014, 10:22 AM
#6816
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
Perhaps, however the more realistic and probable scenario is that they park E145s as planned, furlough L-XJT pilots and offer interviews to said pilots to help staff the E 175. This accelerates the wind down of XJT, and provides competent and trained pilots to SKYW at first year pay, not to mention it reduces ALPAs presence.
Putting E175s on the L-ASA side only further inflames tensions between both sides and in the end will cost SKYW more money. I hope that neither option happens, but one must be realistic after all this time.
Putting E175s on the L-ASA side only further inflames tensions between both sides and in the end will cost SKYW more money. I hope that neither option happens, but one must be realistic after all this time.
08-06-2014, 10:26 AM
#6817
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Originally Posted by xjtpilot
They won't do that because they need whipsaw and the Major Partners don't want their egg in one basket. Mesa, Skywest Airlines, Republic, Expressjet, etc.
It just all depends on where they want to take this ExpressJet entity...the only way E-175s end up on the XJT side is if we have a JCBA and they use that as a carrot, which is likely too. L-XJT and
L-ASA will still be operating a large number of 50 seaters even with the drawdown coming, not to mention, there is a huge chance that the E145/CR2's scheduled to come off line are extended due to the fact that UAL and DAL realizing that "whoops, perhaps we do need that flying after all!"
Our size is a huge advantage, and our performance numbers improving is a great upside to where things have been going lately. I do think that the E175 will eventually end up on the XJT side at some point, but probably not in the near future and well after a JCBA is reached, something that is likely to never happen if things keep going the way they are going.
08-06-2014, 10:50 AM
#6818
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
I hope you're right as I don't want to see anyone on the street, however, if the draw down occurs as rapidly as they say it will, and if SKYW stays true to it's word re: E-175s only flown on their certificate, it only makes sense for them to furlough L-XJT pilots and offer them "preferred interviews" at Skywest as there will be lots of qualified pilots on the street...not to mention, the majors aren't hiring FO's in droves right now, and probably won't for another 2 years, so where are these guys going to go?...the majority will go to SKYW if this scenario plays out.
It just all depends on where they want to take this ExpressJet entity...the only way E-175s end up on the XJT side is if we have a JCBA and they use that as a carrot, which is likely too. L-XJT and
L-ASA will still be operating a large number of 50 seaters even with the drawdown coming, not to mention, there is a huge chance that the E145/CR2's scheduled to come off line are extended due to the fact that UAL and DAL realizing that "whoops, perhaps we do need that flying after all!"
Our size is a huge advantage, and our performance numbers improving is a great upside to where things have been going lately. I do think that the E175 will eventually end up on the XJT side at some point, but probably not in the near future and well after a JCBA is reached, something that is likely to never happen if things keep going the way they are going.
It just all depends on where they want to take this ExpressJet entity...the only way E-175s end up on the XJT side is if we have a JCBA and they use that as a carrot, which is likely too. L-XJT and
L-ASA will still be operating a large number of 50 seaters even with the drawdown coming, not to mention, there is a huge chance that the E145/CR2's scheduled to come off line are extended due to the fact that UAL and DAL realizing that "whoops, perhaps we do need that flying after all!"
Our size is a huge advantage, and our performance numbers improving is a great upside to where things have been going lately. I do think that the E175 will eventually end up on the XJT side at some point, but probably not in the near future and well after a JCBA is reached, something that is likely to never happen if things keep going the way they are going.
08-06-2014, 10:52 AM
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What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
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Last edited by Nevets; 08-06-2014 at 11:08 AM. Reason: additional comments
08-06-2014, 11:13 AM
#6820
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Originally Posted by air101
They said that a JCBA will not improve XJT's financial standing and don't see that as a solution to the problems any longer.
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