What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
01-04-2015, 08:38 AM
#8411
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
As of today, L-XJT ceases to exist after 2017, and L-ASA ceases to exist after 2021. Plus the next DAL "rate reset" is September 2015. The lowball offers on that are GoJets and Endeavor.
I don't see the rosy future you do.
I don't see the rosy future you do.
01-04-2015, 08:39 AM
#8412
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
I honestly don't feel too bad for FOs "stuck" in the right seat. There are opportunities out there right now to fly left seat right away. Granted I know losing seniority stinks, but if it is a pay raise right away and left seat time and FOs just don't want to move then its kinda on them.
where are you talking?? I don't know anywhere that would hire me as a captain with a pay raise.... do you mean TSA?
01-04-2015, 08:52 AM
#8413
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
where are you talking?? I don't know anywhere that would hire me as a captain with a pay raise.... do you mean TSA?
01-04-2015, 09:06 AM
#8414
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yes, I would never leave for another regional though. with TSA the captain qualified FO program, you never know how much pic you'll get, and if you'll stay that way as FOs senior to you upgrade... I've been in this industry for 7 years. It changes on a dime! It would be a massive risk to go to another regional....nothing is assured. not even 6 month upgrade...
TSA isn't a pay raise either. I'm topped out for a year now at 43.xx no other regional matches that at first year pay lol
going to a LCC wouldn't be a bad move, at least if you got stuck somewhere, its much better pay. and less risk of going out of business... although allegiant is not very good... frontier might not be too bad
TSA isn't a pay raise either. I'm topped out for a year now at 43.xx no other regional matches that at first year pay lol
going to a LCC wouldn't be a bad move, at least if you got stuck somewhere, its much better pay. and less risk of going out of business... although allegiant is not very good... frontier might not be too bad
01-04-2015, 10:07 AM
#8415
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
I honestly don't feel too bad for FOs "stuck" in the right seat. There are opportunities out there right now to fly left seat right away. Granted I know losing seniority stinks, but if it is a pay raise right away and left seat time and FOs just don't want to move then its kinda on them.
01-04-2015, 11:49 AM
#8416
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
yes, I would never leave for another regional though. with TSA the captain qualified FO program, you never know how much pic you'll get, and if you'll stay that way as FOs senior to you upgrade... I've been in this industry for 7 years. It changes on a dime! It would be a massive risk to go to another regional....nothing is assured. not even 6 month upgrade...
TSA isn't a pay raise either. I'm topped out for a year now at 43.xx no other regional matches that at first year pay lol
going to a LCC wouldn't be a bad move, at least if you got stuck somewhere, its much better pay. and less risk of going out of business... although allegiant is not very good... frontier might not be too bad
TSA isn't a pay raise either. I'm topped out for a year now at 43.xx no other regional matches that at first year pay lol
going to a LCC wouldn't be a bad move, at least if you got stuck somewhere, its much better pay. and less risk of going out of business... although allegiant is not very good... frontier might not be too bad
01-04-2015, 03:33 PM
#8417
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
Well, it is a pay raise as you get 43/hr right seat and 66/hr left seat. You would fly a lot left seat. Sure there are inherent risk, but what really does a regional FO at like Endeavor or Envoy have to lose?
01-05-2015, 02:18 PM
#8418
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
Well, it is a pay raise as you get 43/hr right seat and 66/hr left seat. You would fly a lot left seat. Sure there are inherent risk, but what really does a regional FO at like Endeavor or Envoy have to lose?
01-05-2015, 11:23 PM
#8419
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Position: Airbus
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Look at some of you guys promoting the regional shuffle... The only reason TSA, etc can staff anything is because people jump to chase that magic PIC time. These companies bank on poaching pilots by selling PIC time like Timmy here. But If people wouldn't do that $%&! then these places wouldn't be able to staff properly for their ridiculous growth percentage. Growth is all fine and dandy, and it's a good thing for TSA, or anyone. I'm not saying XJT is the bees knees, but too many people are hurting this industry by running around from regional to regional. If you just try hard and network, there are far better options out there for many senior FOs than going to some other regional and thinking you're going to have the phone ring when you hit 1000 TPIC.
01-06-2015, 12:10 AM
#8420
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Originally Posted by Tacos
You are right. I don't feel bad for anyone at this company. It is a choice at this point and must be everyone that is still here is too lazy to leave. I mean that TSA PIC qualified FO program seems legit, and Allegiant has a short upgrade time if you are willing to be on permanent TDY and go on strike shortly. Lots of great options out there. How do I decide where to go?
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