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Old 09-17-2014, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by captlonestar View Post
I have no clue what you are talking about. It's funny though that you think my criticism of you has something to do with our MEC or NC.. Paranoid much??

Listen ASA guys, if this is the kind of people you are taking advice from about our PBS and culture and that we somehow want to bring down your QOL, you're crazy. If anything the top at ASA want to protect their QOL at your expense. We spread the love more evenly, not just by DOH. For instance, our pilots get to bid in seniority order for each Vacation week.. One by one.. Not all at one time. When I saw that in our TA I was sick. It's just not fair. Give every one a chance to get a week off that they want. The senior shouldn't get to Xmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, and their B-day when they could hold them off anyways with a bid.

We will protect QOL with smartperf.. If we don't then I would happily switch to FlightLine. Lets give each other a chance and we can work it out next contract. We do not want to undercut your QOL!!
This is one of the big problems I have with your system and your mentality on that side. Seniority is the way things work. I'm fairly senior. I'm sorry, but that's the way things work.

What's wrong with just keeping things separate? We like what we have, and obviously you like what you have. Let's just stay separate then everyone wins. You keep your line bidding and we keep flightline. You keep your vacation bidding, and we keep ours. You get to keep your Bfund and your LTD. What am I missing?
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
No different than you trying to force FlightLine on us. The last TA actually had a fare agreement for PBS for both sides. If we were going to "shove" anything it would be Line Bidding..

Remove Capt. Tony ASA folks! We need unity!
No thanks. We'll keep Captain Tony.......
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
This is one the big problems I have with your system and your mentality on that side. Seniority is the way things work. I'm fairly senior. I'm sorry, but that's the way things work.

What's wrong with just keeping things separate? We like what we have, and obviously you like what you have. Let's just stay separate then everyone wins. You keep your line bidding and we keep flightline. You keep your vacation bidding, and we keep ours. You get to keep your Bfund and your LTD. What am I missing?
Can't keep the sides separate. Mergers do not work that way. Financially it makes no sense for the company or it's shareholders.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:36 PM
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No thanks. We'll keep Captain Tony.......
I agree. Keep Capt Tony and fire Captlonestar.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
I bet you don't even know how our system works. You never know, maybe our system is great. How do you know what our system is like?
And how would I know? Do you know what our line bidding is like? Probably not.

The PBS transition is the best compromise. We can take the best of the two systems in the next contract.
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Can't keep the sides separate. Mergers do not work that way. Financially it makes no sense for the company or it's shareholders.
So how do we merge when the two sides are so far apart? This isn't working for anyone. We've been separate for this long, just stay separate. I don't want anything to do with the LXJT side.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:40 PM
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I agree. Keep Capt Tony and fire Captlonestar.
You can't fire someone with out a position!! I do no work in the union other than as a volunteer
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by captlonestar View Post
And how would I know? Do you know what our line bidding is like? Probably not.

The PBS transition is the best compromise. We can take the best of the two systems in the next contract.
I know how your line bidding works. I know how your ILIW and SLIW and add pay works. I've used line bidding. Have you used PBS?

I don't like your free for all first come first served ILIW. I like the seniority system. I'm not interested in compromising.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by captlonestar View Post
You can't fire someone with out a position!! I do no work in the union other than as a volunteer
I like our union reps. They are looking out for us. I really don't want to merge with you.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
This is one of the big problems I have with your system and your mentality on that side. Seniority is the way things work. I'm fairly senior. I'm sorry, but that's the way things work.

What's wrong with just keeping things separate? We like what we have, and obviously you like what you have. Let's just stay separate then everyone wins. You keep your line bidding and we keep flightline. You keep your vacation bidding, and we keep ours. You get to keep your Bfund and your LTD. What am I missing?
Of course you're senior. You want it all for you and screw the people behind you. Thats the ASA way.

Thats what the PBS transition agreement gives us. We try our PBS out and you keep yours. Whats wrong with that?
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