The future is so bright I have to wear shades...

 

LXJT guys, I am just a regular line pilot, and have had mostly good interaction with the LXJT folks I come in to contact with. There is, however, one big issue with PBS that most of us take issue with. Here it is, the best I can explain it.

First, Flightline is a tried and tested product that has resulted in a much better quality of life for MOST of the LASA folks. We spent a lot of money developing it over time and got a better overall QOL with it. Second, our understanding of SmartPref is that it may result in a poorer QOL for LASA due to globalization. Third, SmartPref has no successful track record from which we can accurately compare. Fourth, SmartPref, according to my understanding, will result in a poorer QOL for all the LXJT guys as compared with current line bidding. Fifth, the majority of LXJT people I hear from don't want Flightline because it wasn't their idea. So, the belief on our side is that , since you folks have more pilots than we do, we need to roll over and accept a PBS system that looks like it will negatively affect all of the pilots in our group (4500 ish) just because it is the brain child of the LXJT negotiators instead of being willing to seriously consider Flightline, which has positively impacted over 1700 of our pilots, and may actually be better for the LXJT group than SmartPref. It seems as if ya'll think that, if we are going to have to get a PBS system, it should get worse for everybody.

Final note, most of us just want this behind us, so let's negotiate something REASONABLE and move on.

 

Sorry... No relation to MEC or any other union position. Just sick of all the crap you two keep posting on here.

ASA folks take action and remove this guy from your negotiating team.

 

They know it's inferior. Their reps have even admitted they know it's inferior. The dirty little secret is that they are using it as a concession to keep their outliers and protect their senior pilots. That's right. Selling QOL, particularly on the ASA side, to keep those expensive items in their contract no one else has. And we have told them to shove it. That's why they want me removed now. Even though I'm just a cog in the machine.

 

Cpt Tony speaks the truth....and they can't handle the truth. The best thing we can do on the ASA side is just sit tight and wait now. My crystal ball says there is some good news coming to the ASA side soon and not so good news for the LXJT side. Their side chose to delay things and trade ASA QOL for their outliers. It didn't work and now they are panicking. Just sit back and let things unfold the next few months.

 

Yeah, it's so bright. 300 + from upgrade after 6.5 years and loosing airplanes. More like I need more lube for the ass pounding. I wish you guys would stop trash talking and get to work. I'd like to have a conversation with our MEC about the people on the NC and what they are actually doing. What is our MECs doing to secure our future? I haven't seen anything in 4 years since the merger. Glad to see I'm paying almost a grand a year for guys to trash talk and divide our fellow pilots on the Ejet side. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

In the words of Captain Tony - swing and a miss. Our MEC is filled with yes voters; I voted no and would do it again.

And a rough week? Who expected those planes to come here? Didn't Brad say no new planes until there's a JCBA? I think 83% of us were OK with those planes going elsewhere if it meant flying them for a penny less. The only ones running scared are those that have made a bad name for themselves and are stuck here. Sorry your fear campaign isn't working on the rest of us.

83% of us are proud to stand up for our profession alongside the Envoy pilots. Republic is already parking planes because they can't hire enough pilots. PSA can't hire enough pilots to fly the 30 CRJ 900's they sold their souls for; how are they going to staff another 47 CRJ 700's from Envoy? Same issue at Mesa. I agree there's a bright future. For some, it's at a major. For others, it's flying the planes the bottom feeders can't staff, for MORE.

 

That's why we need a joint contract so we can merge the lists and protect our jobs!!!

 

This is what I do not understand. Did the ASA union tell you that there is a PBS transition agreement in place where you keep flightline and we keep SmartPerf for the duration of the next contract? Why is this not an acceptable option? I think this is completely REASONABLE but the ASA MEC wanted to revoke it because the TA did not pass. Lets move on, agree to the PBS transition, and get this thing done.

 

With the announcement today of 50 175 going to Republic, United is now maxed out on 71+ seat RJs.... XJT is done. There will be no fleet replacement.